trip into hell Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 What country is that? Are you a minor? its germany...a very bad place if you need a prescription while having a drug past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hppd33 Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Jup into the train Come to Holland and I Will hand you some benzos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 holland is actually a nice place to be..even though im sure youre joking....i cant drive..no matter what vehicle...i get so dizzy and panic..not to forget that it takes a long time to arrive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hppd33 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 So you sit at home always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 almost always...when im not in town or taking a walk around.. ..i know ..it'll make me sick one day but i dont want to do things i can not fully enjoy due to dizzyness, panic or other unwanted sensations cause that also makes me sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hppd33 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thats no life man. Force your self todo something which you like but you dont do because of your anxiety. Dont Let it win. Im doing almost everything except flying or driving long distances in a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 youre right...i will do so in the near future....but i always think my life shouldnt be a constant battle for survival..there must be something i could really enjoy without doubt...but there is almost nothing and even the things i do enjoy are just not worth talking about..cause thats not what pleasure really means to me..i guess i have to force myself to smoke big amounts of weed again, as a kind of shock therapy since that also causes anxiety for me, whereas before my onset i usually enjoyed it and so far i have no problems enjoying small amounts these days.. in my first few month even a tiny peace of weed or tobacco (not even noticable for normal people) caused me severe panic attacks...so there must be something i can do to get me back to normal completely..dont you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hppd33 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 exposure, dont think too much, think diffirent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 i guess i have to force myself to smoke big amounts of weed again, as a kind of shock therapy since that also causes anxiety I tried that, it doesn't seem to get any better, though we are all different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 exposure, dont think too much, think diffirent what do you mean exactly? I tried that, it doesn't seem to get any better, though we are all different youre right...we are all different but there is one thing we all share ..anxiety..though its a different reason for everybody..so i think there are different solutions to this for every individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Update : so this buspirone makes me almost feel completely cured almost. I can smoke weed again and I even smoked k2 and I'm fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverwarned Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 So what has the Buspirone done for you besides make it ok for you to smoke weed again . do you have trails , afterimages photophobia dp/dr , Ghosting ?. How have they helped any of your symptoms? . I ask because I was thinking about trying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I do have the visuals and dp/dr but it helped a lot with that stuff. You should try buspirone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 So I am trying to be a strict weed-only stoner and I'm trying not to start doing other drugs again. I already quit LSD and diphenhydramine permanently and I'm hoping I can control myself from fucking myself up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghormeh Sabzi Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 If you have had HPPD, then you have a genetic predisposition to the disorder. If you are in remission you are not cured because you still have the same genetic predisposition which allowed you to get HPPD in the first place. If you know you have a genetic predisposition (everyone on this forum does), then the only sensible choice is to avoid drugs for the rest of your life. Especially drugs which, time and time again, users have reported as worsening symptoms permanently. Just because you are fine after one use does not mean you will be fine after the next use. If you cannot resist the urge to continue to take drugs then you should seek professional help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 If you have had HPPD, then you have a genetic predisposition to the disorder. If you are in remission you are not cured because you still have the same genetic predisposition which allowed you to get HPPD in the first place. If you know you have a genetic predisposition (everyone on this forum does), then the only sensible choice is to avoid drugs for the rest of your life. Especially drugs which, time and time again, users have reported as worsening symptoms permanently. Just because you are fine after one use does not mean you will be fine after the next use. If you cannot resist the urge to continue to take drugs then you should seek professional help. you do not know if its genetic + its very hard to abstain all mind altering substances for the rest of life because its just human nature to experiment with altered states of mind...i dont have hppd anymore but i dont fear to get it back because i already had terrible trips on pretty potent canna oil etc. and it didnt come back.. even though i smoke weed here and there (in small amounts again because i get panic attacks from smoking more)..the thing i do avoid is to do strong mind altering substances and smoking too much weed because as mentioned already i fear panic attacks. the point is i dont recommend taking drugs but i dont try to scare somebody who does and is able to enjoy it..because i think spreading anxiety can also make it worse for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 We are not scaring people, here most of us have/had HPPD. I don't go to forums about drugs telling users to stop or moderate. I did weeks long amphetamine binges stopping to eat and sleep something every three days, and my HPPD wasn't that bad!! I did that after one year with low level HPPD. I don't even fucking know when my HPPD crossed the line and I was completely retarded and messed up. I was so into drugs that I didn't know what was normal anymore.. Bang on mate, this is exactly where I was 20+ years ago... So far into the drug life that I couldn't even differentiate between come downs, highs and mental disorders. I don't think I have seen one person on here who is "scaring" people off drugs for any reason other than empathy and compassion, based on our own mistakes with drugs. Just be thankful that to have the internet, where you can get information from people who have been there, done that. Some of us didn't have such a luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghormeh Sabzi Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 This forum was down when my symptoms first presented themselves. I wish I had the warnings others are lucky enough to get. I had comparatively minor symptoms of just visual snow and BFEP at first. I continued to occasionally smoke weed and take MDMA (I was never a big user), as well as drink a lot of alcohol. I cannot be sure what caused the spike but a few months later I developed a whole variety of other visual and non-visual symptoms. At the time I felt very ill. I then ceased all drugs (including alcohol), and tried to live as healthy as I could. Over a few months I recovered fully from some non-visual symptoms (e.g. head pressure, severe headaches, some trippy feelings that are hard to explain). I was then left with residual visual symptoms and some non-visual symptoms such as fasciculations, chronic pain and minor tinnitus. By steering well clear of all drugs, these symptoms have remained stable for several years and by taking Keppra I have mostly eliminated the pain as a factor. At my worst, I was unable to function at all. My life would have been a shambles. I am now able to mostly live as someone who does not have HPPD. The fear of being put back into a situation where I am not function and would not be able to achieve my life goals completely eliminates any desire I have to take drugs ever again in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Human nature shit. Less than 5% of the population take a psychedelic *ever* in their life. There is plenty of people who don't try alcohol *ever* in their life. So yeah, there you go. You may not have HPPD again, but don't delude yourself into thinking that drugs are *safe*. Even more, don't delude yourself into thinking that drugs are *necessary* We are not scaring people, here most of us have/had HPPD. I don't go to forums about drugs telling users to stop or moderate. I did weeks long amphetamine binges stopping to eat and sleep something every three days, and my HPPD wasn't that bad!! I did that after one year with low level HPPD. I don't even fucking know when my HPPD crossed the line and I was completely retarded and messed up. I was so into drugs that I didn't know what was normal anymore.. One year ago I wasn't able to look outside of the window due to the strong patterning I saw on the walls, the cables and clothesline leaving colors, afterimages.. I know I'm better because I can look outside of the window now. Gman, do what you can. Been there, done that. I just say to you that it's by sheer luck that I didn't commit suicide or ruined my life completely. Your mileage may vary. man when i said experimenting with altered states i didnt just talk about the group of substances called psychedelics...i mean every kind of substance that puts you in another state of mind...and most if not all people have tryed or will try or even consume something regulary in their lives. i never said drugs are necessary or safe and i dont even think this way...but they arent the opposite either...and constantly telling someone they are dangerous who is taking them regardless of what you say (and he got told hundrets of times already) means spreading anxiety to me..or is useless in the best case. but its ok i know you just want to protect someone from experiencing the same shit you did.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 This forum was down when my symptoms first presented themselves. I wish I had the warnings others are lucky enough to get. I had comparatively minor symptoms of just visual snow and BFEP at first. I continued to occasionally smoke weed and take MDMA (I was never a big user), as well as drink a lot of alcohol. I cannot be sure what caused the spike but a few months later I developed a whole variety of other visual and non-visual symptoms. At the time I felt very ill. I then ceased all drugs (including alcohol), and tried to live as healthy as I could. Over a few months I recovered fully from some non-visual symptoms (e.g. head pressure, severe headaches, some trippy feelings that are hard to explain). I was then left with residual visual symptoms and some non-visual symptoms such as fasciculations, chronic pain and minor tinnitus. By steering well clear of all drugs, these symptoms have remained stable for several years and by taking Keppra I have mostly eliminated the pain as a factor. At my worst, I was unable to function at all. My life would have been a shambles. I am now able to mostly live as someone who does not have HPPD. The fear of being put back into a situation where I am not function and would not be able to achieve my life goals completely eliminates any desire I have to take drugs ever again in my life. that sounds awful...im so sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Bang on mate, this is exactly where I was 20+ years ago... So far into the drug life that I couldn't even differentiate between come downs, highs and mental disorders. I don't think I have seen one person on here who is "scaring" people off drugs for any reason other than empathy and compassion, based on our own mistakes with drugs. Just be thankful that to have the internet, where you can get information from people who have been there, done that. Some of us didn't have such a luxury. you are right its really good to have the internet just for diagnosing yourself and get some recommendations...but sometimes i think its a curse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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