TheGman6072 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Will getting drunk make HPPD and dp/dr worse or will it not affect it ? I haven't gotten drunk in a long time and I have kinda been thinking about it for the past few days. I don't really remember the last time I got drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugger Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Alcohol is known to affect dp/dr. I've had no issues with the visuals getting worse, apart from the hangover the next day (and occasional anxiety). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 you can drink small amounts of alcohol..but believe me you dont want to get drunk or even drink everyday....and even small amounts mostly have bad effects when the substance leaves your system..i remember that i had terrible nightmares the night after...but you can give it a try just dont overdo it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 There are people on here who have made their hppd worse, long term, from alcohol.... there are people here who seem fine, there are people here who don't get long term issues, but get terrible anxiety for upto 3-4 days after the night of heavy drinking (I am one!). So the answer is, as always, no one can answer for you!! Isn't hppd fun? 2 large beers reduces your serotonin by 80% the next day, so it has a significant effect on the brain's chemistry. If you do drink, the very best is to stick to something like gin and orange... Just a small amount, just have enough to get a buzz, then try to stay on water until the buzz needs a bit of a top up. That is the cleanest... If not that, just a few bottled beers, organic if possible. Drink plenty of water and have a banana when you return to help boost your serotonin levels. The problem with alcohol is once you have had 2-3, you stop caring about the rules and just go wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 alcohol is never a good choice... if you have hppd or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 It is the only time I feel like my old personality is back, i can relax, chat and make jokes like I used to. It is not great for hppd sufferers though... I am sure I made my recovery chances worse by drinking alot of problems away in the first 3 years of hppd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 its the same with me and low doses of kratom..i feel almost back to normal when i take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.50's Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Tramadol made me feel amazing, actual happiness meanwhile codeine didn't, that's because tramadol cause a release in serotonin which all hppders seem to lack. Sadly taking drugs that affect serotonin is NOT a safe thing with hppd. Drinking makes me feel ok if I only have a little, I recently had only 2 bud lights and felt really de personalized and scared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Well I'm going to try chugging one of my grandfather's wines to see if I will like it. Even if I like it, it will probably be the last time I ever drink cuz I'm an alcoholic risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'll try drinking but I have no plans to smoke weed or any of that shit that could harm my HPPD. Even if I do, I'm not going to tell anyone or even post about it on here cuz that would just make me look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Tramadol made me feel amazing, actual happiness meanwhile codeine didn't, that's because tramadol cause a release in serotonin which all hppders seem to lack. Sadly taking drugs that affect serotonin is NOT a safe thing with hppd. Drinking makes me feel ok if I only have a little, I recently had only 2 bud lights and felt really de personalized and scared codeine has a very weak effect compared to other opiates and can only help to a certain degree, if you take more it wont affect your opiate receptors anymore. tramadol is a ''synthetic'' opiate and like all of them, it increases well being by releasing gaba and in the case of tramadol just small amounts of serotonin (serotonin alone would make you trip and anxious)...the strange thing is that gaba is helping with anxiety not only hppd...which leads me to the conclusion that whether hppd can not exist without anxiety or is just another kind of anxiety disorder....remembering that a symptom of severe anxiety is hallucination (and dilated pupils). by the way tramadol (the so called synthetic opiate) has been found in a plant as a natural compound not even long ago....maybe you can grow and extract it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Ok I just tried drinking one of my grandfather's wines and god damn that was repulsive ! It was too disgusting I dumped the rest of it lol beer never tasted that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umit Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 they ask us we drink beer yea we drink beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandzager Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Ive recently got HPPD and started drinking with my friends instead of smoking weed For me it doesnt get worse if i drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B.Fante Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Jay (or anybody else), I was just wondering if you know cases of people who've been "cured" of their HPPD, then drank heavily and had their HPPD symptoms return. I'm never doing hard drugs again, not even weed, but I would like to have some drinks in the future and feel safe. I'm not consuming alcohol until I feel my HPPD is completely gone or at a point where I can't notice it any longer. But after that I would like to continue drinking here and there as long as I'm sure it won't cause my symptoms to return. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umit Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 yea i drinked even when my hppd was in the worst and didnt do my hppd worse actualy its mask some of the symptoms when you are drunk i can say its safe buth i didnt drink it to offently so dont know what it wil cause in longterm just the best thing for me works sports and espacialy for the mood i dont feel trippy any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 i have no hppd anymore but still an anxiety disorder...and if i drink i dont bring back hppd but if i drink too much i get panik attacks and a bad hangover but thats due to my anxiety disorder...i cant say exactly if its safe but for most people it is including me when it comes to hppd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B.Fante Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yeah it sounds pretty safe from everything I've read. I'm the same way with anxiety though. I always have gotten really bad hangovers due to anxiety. Before HPPD I'd gotten to the point in my life where I didn't drink that much anyways because I hated the hangovers, but I just want to be sure that if one night I slip up I won't be thrown back into the hell of having to deal with HPPD again. I don't think I'll ever drink that much again, but I do just want to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 just dont overdo it and i think then you'll be safe....be careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I tried to drink wine but it was disgusting almost threw up it was so bad lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 try to drink beer or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umit Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 brandon did you drink alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I didn't get drunk. I took two massive gulps and I almost threw up. I dumped the rest because it was disgusting. Way more disgusting than beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGman6072 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 But yeah I was alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip into hell Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 it doesnt matter if you drink alone or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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