hppd Have I HPPD or VSS? It’s worsening and I am scared

[dayum_son]

@dasitmane

I love these gif answers, it's making TryingToHelp look even more retarded and very accurately represents the HPPD community's feelings.

[Guest]

Yeah, it’s all rooted in anxiety...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2020&q=drug+induced+psychosis+brain+damage&hl=en&as_sdt=0,21&as_vis=1#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DZ9zk17SET6IJ

[Guest]

On 2/26/2020 at 8:52 AM, TryingToHelp said:

Most people would 'see' things such as that if they were anxious about their vision and keep checking it. Vision is as much about the brains interpretations of the raw visual signals as much as it is about the signal itself. Dont focus on your vision, get out and about living life and you won't notice stuff.

Last bit of advice, dont come on this forum or indeed any other about hppd. They are full of negativity and wild theories about brain damage etc. Someone will undoubtedly come along and tell you that you must have hppd even though it was just from a joint. With your existing anxiety, that will send you down a bad road.

Think about this rationally. Humans have been using cannabis for thousands of years with zero hppd reports. Where are all the jamaican rastas, hip hop stars etc with hppd? Tens of us states ain't gonna legalise something that causes hppd. 

Hppd has only ever been reported since the 1950s when people started using 'proper psychedelic drugs'. 

 

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2020&q=drug+induced+psychosis+brain+damage&hl=en&as_sdt=0,21&as_vis=1#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DZ9zk17SET6IJ

[Guest]

[Guest]

[AntoCVSS]

3 minutes ago, hope1 said:

And is that damage revesible? I only smoked like once full hashish cigarette? And just a hit from 2 or 3 friend’s hashish cigarettes, I didn’t abuse about it!

Also I am thinking about my HPPD could be because Sertraline.

Anyways, is it reversible?

[Guest]

I have no idea but the focus isn’t so much about you anymore but about that IDIOT trying to make the case it’s all in our heads. 
 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780124186798/the-effects-of-drug-abuse-on-the-human-nervous-system

[Woket]

Hey bro,

Firstly, i'm here to help or whatever his name is, is totally wrong. Weed is a psychoactive substance, and any psychoactive substance (eg: LSD, Shrooms, Peyote) can impact you leading to hppd, depending on how sensitive your mind is. 

I also have ver bad HPPD from excessive LSD abuse, and what you have described sounds like HPPD II, which is what I also have. My biggest advice would be to stay away from the benzo's (Clonazapam) as they are highly addictive, make your depression worse short term, and make your anxiety worse long term. I have been on Lamotrigine (Lamictl) for a month now, and am only up to 50mg's, so I have only had a little change with the actual HPPD, which to me looks promising as I am on a road up to 200mg a day, going up 25mg a fortnight. I have notice a massive change in my mood swings, leading to a positive change to my depression and anxiety, panic attacks, ect, all things associated with HPPD as it is technically a visual form of psychosis. Also, psychotherapy and BPD therapy is really helpful as well, a way better alternative to psychology.

I hope this helps bud, it does suck, but well get there! Keep in contact

Edited March 4, 2020 by Woket

[dayum_son]

On 3/2/2020 at 3:51 PM, AntoCVSS said:

And is that damage revesible? I only smoked like once full hashish cigarette? And just a hit from 2 or 3 friend’s hashish cigarettes, I didn’t abuse about it!

Also I am thinking about my HPPD could be because Sertraline.

Anyways, is it reversible?

A few people have stated getting HPPD from cannabis/hash, so yes apparently it happens.

However, Sertraline is an SSRI. SSRIs are very well known in the HPPD community to violently exacerbate visuals or other HPPD related symptoms. Stopping SSRIs could also make visuals worse for some time.

Just like when I stopped LSD microdosing, the visuals were worse for some time and then went back to baseline.

Many reports were positive about Lamotrigine. However there were some bad reports too. If it's really too much to bare, try Lamotrigine or other "success story" drug, but remember, they are no miracle and could make things worse.

I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but there were a few reports stating that it was bad at first when taking Lamotrigine but got better afterwards. Can anyone confirm this ?

[Fawkinchit]

3 hours ago, dayum_son said:

A few people have stated getting HPPD from cannabis/hash, so yes apparently it happens.

However, Sertraline is an SSRI. SSRIs are very well known in the HPPD community to violently exacerbate visuals or other HPPD related symptoms. Stopping SSRIs could also make visuals worse for some time.

Just like when I stopped LSD microdosing, the visuals were worse for some time and then went back to baseline.

Many reports were positive about Lamotrigine. However there were some bad reports too. If it's really too much to bare, try Lamotrigine or other "success story" drug, but remember, they are no miracle and could make things worse.

I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but there were a few reports stating that it was bad at first when taking Lamotrigine but got better afterwards. Can anyone confirm this ?

@Jaz this information is good regarding Lamotrigine. 

 

@dayum_son i recall some people reporting that with risperidone, but i dont remember in regards to lamotrigine.

 

also how do we actually tag people on the forum? Im too lazy to look it up lol.

Edited March 5, 2020 by dasitmane

[dayum_son]

1 hour ago, dasitmane said:

Jaz this information is good regarding Lamotrigine.

 

Dayum_son i recall some people reporting that with risperidone, but i dont remember in regards to lamotrigine.

 

also how do we actually tag people on the forum? Im too lazy to look it up lol.

By tagging do you mean writing "@" followed by the username of the intended recipient ?

[dayum_son]

Found these two posts :

 

 

Maybe there are more than two people reporting this, haven't bothered to look it up right now.

Apparently, the key to taking Lamotrigine is slowly upping the dosage and not directly go into full hardcore healing attempt mode.

@AntoCVSS But as I said previously here and in other threads, if it really is that bad and really unbearable, give it a shot with moderate dosage.

The desire to try medicine has been here for ever but I never came to actually trying it. My mindset is as follows : As long as the disorder is bearable, might as well keep it that way instead of messing things up. It's just like you going to the Casino when you are poor. There is a chance you will come out of there with much more money or maybe even rich, but there is also a chance that you will come out poorer than ever. I'd rather slowly take myself out of poverty instead of playing the gambling game.

I hope the comparison shows what I'm trying to say.

[Fawkinchit]

1 hour ago, dayum_son said:

By tagging do you mean writing "@" followed by the username of the intended recipient ?

Yes! exactly thanks.

1 hour ago, dayum_son said:

Found these two posts :

 

 

Maybe there are more than two people reporting this, haven't bothered to look it up right now.

Apparently, the key to taking Lamotrigine is slowly upping the dosage and not directly go into full hardcore healing attempt mode.

@AntoCVSS But as I said previously here and in other threads, if it really is that bad and really unbearable, give it a shot with moderate dosage.

The desire to try medicine has been here for ever but I never came to actually trying it. My mindset is as follows : As long as the disorder is bearable, might as well keep it that way instead of messing things up. It's just like you going to the Casino when you are poor. There is a chance you will come out of there with much more money or maybe even rich, but there is also a chance that you will come out poorer than ever. I'd rather slowly take myself out of poverty instead of playing the gambling game.

I hope the comparison shows what I'm trying to say.

Nice I will have to read these.

[Kax1]

Hey, I’m not reading any arguments or getting involved it’s quite a rollercoaster . I just want you to know you are not alone. I have these symptoms. I also got them from coke (that’s what I was on when they appeared but it was definitely Laced with something if you get me) and I have done acid in the past. Stay strong buddy I can sense the anxiety it is hard. I cannot he diagnosed as I live in the Uk I’m not even sure it’s a recognised disorder here

[Kax1]

Hey, I’m not reading any arguments or getting involved it’s quite a rollercoaster . I just want you to know you are not alone. I have these symptoms. I also got them from coke (that’s what I was on when they appeared but it was definitely Laced with something if you get me) and I have done acid in the past. Stay strong buddy I can sense the anxiety it is hard. I cannot he diagnosed as I live in the Uk I’m not even sure it’s a recognised disorder here

[Aangtheairbender]

Some people develop VSS without having any past drug use sometimes and some people have it from birth. My friend has Visual Snow because he was in a car accident and the collision affected his eyes. But he doesn't have HPPD. So it is possible that you have VSS and some sort of anxiety disorder together. I have pretty severe Generalized Anxiety (GAD) so I know how anxiety can affect people and its sometimes hard to step outside of the panic. It's also totally possible that you developed HPPD after smoking weed. Honestly I think if you do have HPPD the hash you smoked was probably laced with some sort of hallucinogen. Some people also develop HPPD after taking certain prescription drugs so maybe that factored in to you developing HPPD/VSS. My best advice is to either go the persciption route which is usually Klonopin (Clonazepam) or Keppra; or the natural route which is like omega 3's, magnesium, and valerian root/ passionflower, vitamin b-12, b complex, vitamin e. Also precision tinted lenses can help reduce visual snow. 

[Emeraldagaleazzi]

I'd like to ask everyone with similar problems not to be afraid to contact specialists. I followed this thread two years ago, and it made me look for all possible ways to recover.

[Betteand]

Any psychedelic drug, hashish or heroin, can harm a weak psyche. It especially applies to people who tend to develop mental illnesses. So trying to make a diagnosis is not just wrong because we have no right to do so. I'd like to ask everyone with similar problems not to be afraid to contact specialists. I followed this thread two years ago, and it made me look for all possible ways to recover. I learned what psychotherapy is, what anxiety pills are, and what medical detox is. There is no universal way, different treatment complexes act on each person. But you will definitely find your way.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Betteand

[Fawkinchit]

I forgot all about this thread, I apologize to anyone I may have offended, my attitude was rude and uncalled for, I should have been more polite.