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violet03

Do I have HPPD?

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I took LSD when I was 15 (6 months ago) in a bad environment on my own and had a pretty bad time. A few months ago I had a few puffs of a joint and my brain just clicked and i saw huge geometrical patterns ingrained into the ground, goblins dancing and heard laughter and people talking and just felt very aware and alert. It lasted until I fell asleep and I could also feel a hand rubbing my head.

Every now and then I see these huge snowflake patterns ingrained in surfaces and have the same alert mindset I had on acid. I also see someone’s shadow out of the corner of my eye pretty often and stuff like that.

I was at a festival last week and had a bit of mandy the first night and hallucinated a few hours later and the next two nights I saw the same in the evenings (I was drinking lightly the last two days). Everyone was smoking weed so the smell have caused it too??

I find it hard to sleep because it feels like objects in my room are watching me and might hurt me and the room just has a dark energy. I wake up a lot because I hear clap sounds.

If I go out anywhere alone then I’ll start dissociating after a few minutes and often feel like someone’s following me and the trees just feel like they’re alive and watching me. The floor also moves as if it’s breathing a lot. I’ve dissociated a lot in the past because I have depression and social anxiety as well as trauma so that might be part of it.

Does this sound like HPPD? 

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Violet, you did list a few major qualifications that matches research and experiences:

1) I think Marijuana is a fine drug in general, but I never liked it. However, the first time I smoked it was a few weeks after my HPPD started -- I thought it would be a way to join the high my friends where having, but not take a hallucinogen --- I WAS WRONG. My symptoms shot to a 12 from what was probably a 6 just moments before a few hits. Then, symptoms gradually went down to the 10. 

 

Dr. Abraham goes so far as to say for someone with HPPD, he would avoid second hand smoke. It makes good sense. 

 

Honestly, why this happens is still a mystery. Generally, people who only use Marijuana very rarely get HPPD. However, people who have taken LSD and then smoke pot weeks, months and even longer, will have it feel like the pot was laced. Homes were bending like a cartoon. 

It seems that once the first time it jumps up that it doesnt have that same effect again. There are marijuana smoking HPPD people. 

How would it happen? LSD temporarily affects how certain brain cell's will produce different amounts of the receptors on a neuron. It takes a few days for this epigenetic action to stop working. Eventually, the way LSD changed the expression of those genes stop. This is why taking LSD for 7 days in a row eventually gets less effective until it has almost no effect. After a few days it begins to return to normal. 

If LSD & trauma together creates a specific state for these cells where nothing is noticeably wrong, but made the cells hyper sensitive to the effects of marijuana.

 

That is a long way of saying, it makes sense what you are saying. 

The question is does it sound like HPPD? If you did not take any drugs for a month and told me not much has changed, it would sound like at least part of it is the syndrome we call HPPD. 

If you read some other first person descriptions you might find they click or they dont at all. 

As Robbie said, do you see what appears like TV static projected all over your vision? 

Hope that helps. 

 

Dk

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On 8/9/2019 at 2:07 PM, robbie123 said:

Do you have Visual Snow 24/7 ? It's one of the key attributes of Hppd . 

Yeah, but I’m pretty sure I’ve had it for my entire life so I don’t really see it as a symptom of anything.

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19 hours ago, David S. Kozin said:

Violet, you did list a few major qualifications that matches research and experiences:

1) I think Marijuana is a fine drug in general, but I never liked it. However, the first time I smoked it was a few weeks after my HPPD started -- I thought it would be a way to join the high my friends where having, but not take a hallucinogen --- I WAS WRONG. My symptoms shot to a 12 from what was probably a 6 just moments before a few hits. Then, symptoms gradually went down to the 10. 

 

Dr. Abraham goes so far as to say for someone with HPPD, he would avoid second hand smoke. It makes good sense. 

 

Honestly, why this happens is still a mystery. Generally, people who only use Marijuana very rarely get HPPD. However, people who have taken LSD and then smoke pot weeks, months and even longer, will have it feel like the pot was laced. Homes were bending like a cartoon. 

It seems that once the first time it jumps up that it doesnt have that same effect again. There are marijuana smoking HPPD people. 

How would it happen? LSD temporarily affects how certain brain cell's will produce different amounts of the receptors on a neuron. It takes a few days for this epigenetic action to stop working. Eventually, the way LSD changed the expression of those genes stop. This is why taking LSD for 7 days in a row eventually gets less effective until it has almost no effect. After a few days it begins to return to normal. 

If LSD & trauma together creates a specific state for these cells where nothing is noticeably wrong, but made the cells hyper sensitive to the effects of marijuana.

 

That is a long way of saying, it makes sense what you are saying. 

The question is does it sound like HPPD? If you did not take any drugs for a month and told me not much has changed, it would sound like at least part of it is the syndrome we call HPPD. 

If you read some other first person descriptions you might find they click or they dont at all. 

As Robbie said, do you see what appears like TV static projected all over your vision? 

Hope that helps. 

 

Dk

Thanks for commenting, this is really helpful. I’ll just wait it out a few months and see if it gets any better.

Also I’m not sure about the visual snow thing since my normal vision has always been kind of static, but I haven’t noticed a change since I took acid so I’m guessing it’s just normal.

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