brendan Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Users of the old forum may remember me recommending this stuff. It has two effects that seem to be relevant. Firstly it modulates nmda glutamate receptors (whatever the funk that means), secondly it increases levels of glutathione, which is often depleted in mental illnesses. Glutathione is the body's main indigenous antioxidant and detoxificant, removing various pollutants such as heavy metals, various organic chemicals (including acetaldehyde from alcohol metabolism, chlamydia) etc. Whatever the action, the result is pretty spectacular. No more anxiety or feeling i'm going to fall out of my body. Cleared up brain fog and feel physically stronger. Worked quickly. Did not affect visuals or tightness around head. Acetyl cysteine has been used experimentally to treat schizophrenia, OCD, chronic fatigue, manic depression and other mental/neurotic conditions, as well as a load of other stuff. It is a cheap supplement available from body building stores like Bulk Powders and MyProtein in the uk, or in more expensive pill form from health food shops like holland and barret. People with excessively compromised detox systems may suffer a herxheimer reaction, so just reduce dose if this happens. Effect is enhanced with alpha lipoic acid. High dose vitamin d is good, tho less necessary with a low carb diet, which i also recommend, with lots of fibrous veg. The effect of aerobic exercise is also remarkable in improving the quality of life. hope this helps someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig80 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Users of the old forum may remember me recommending this stuff. It has two effects that seem to be relevant. Firstly it modulates nmda glutamate receptors (whatever the funk that means), secondly it increases levels of glutathione, which is often depleted in mental illnesses. Glutathione is the body's main indigenous antioxidant and detoxificant, removing various pollutants such as heavy metals, various organic chemicals (including acetaldehyde from alcohol metabolism, chlamydia) etc. Whatever the action, the result is pretty spectacular. No more anxiety or feeling i'm going to fall out of my body. Cleared up brain fog and feel physically stronger. Worked quickly. Did not affect visuals or tightness around head. Acetyl cysteine has been used experimentally to treat schizophrenia, OCD, chronic fatigue, manic depression and other mental/neurotic conditions, as well as a load of other stuff. It is a cheap supplement available from body building stores like Bulk Powders and MyProtein in the uk, or in more expensive pill form from health food shops like holland and barret. People with excessively compromised detox systems may suffer a herxheimer reaction, so just reduce dose if this happens. Effect is enhanced with alpha lipoic acid. High dose vitamin d is good, tho less necessary with a low carb diet, which i also recommend, with lots of fibrous veg. The effect of aerobic exercise is also remarkable in improving the quality of life. hope this helps someone. Good to see ya back around Brendan. I think you and I spoke quite a bit on the old forum involving detoxing and theories around it. I still believe detoxing is huge as well candida diet. I forgot my old name somehow, memory is not great. but i remember you recommending NAC to me cause of my poor liver functioning. Glad it's making a difference for you! I need to order some more actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 ovation22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig80 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 ovation22? haha ya, woah.. I don't know why I couldn't remember that! I knew it was one of my instruments! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper83 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Thanks for this information brendan.. I'm going to order some nac and lipoic acid, can you recommend a dosage on both supplements? I remember an old post of yours saying you were experimenting with nootropics, was it these two that you found best then? I ordered a brain supplement from the US called craniac xtreme, it looks similar to an old one called peracetam (i think), I saw a guy saying this helped him recover to a degree. Craniac x has nac, ginkgo biloba, ginseng and a few other ingredients in.. will see how it goes and write up here if I get anything positive from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 haha ya, woah.. I don't know why I couldn't remember that! I knew it was one of my instruments! maybe nac improves memory too! Nice guitar btw. Piper - i use a 2ml scoop that you get from the sports powder places. This is about 700mg. Most pills are 600mg. So a maintenance dose of a scoop a day, plus If i am boozing i up it to 3 or 4 scoops x once or twice a night. Internet hearsay suggests using 1-4 times as much vitamin c with nac to keep glutathione in deoxidised form. Most ala pills are 200mg, but again i just use a scoop whenever i feel the nac isnt working its magic. Ala doesnt dissolve but i put it in water as a suspension and knock it back with a load of water, cos it feels quite peppery. Or put it in food. Also use chaparral tincture (from homeopath.it if youre in uk) - just a pipette full whenever i feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 i tried piracetam. Nothing too noticeable - maybe i would perform better on function tests but nothing subjectively noticeable in short term use. I used modafanil to get me through my masters, but not great as anti hppd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timer Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Just ordered some NAC, should arrive tomorrow / Tuesday - will update on effects if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellamy09 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 has there been any negative things about this? i mean why is everyone not using it if it helps that much. i got some coming in tomorrow hopefully because my klono just is not working yet. or its not working anymore on this dosage. i hope its just not working yet and still stabilizing even though its been like 2 months. anxiety is almost unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellamy09 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 well i actually got it earlier and i think im allergic to something unfortunately. everything seemed to get worse for me really bad stomach cramps as well. will keep taking hopefully will see improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Try a lower amount. Also, did you by a 'cheap' brand? Supplements are like food - there is junk food and junk vitamins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 i think some people can have a bad stomach from it. If you are taking it in pill form make sure you take it right down cos if it gets stuck youll get bad heart burn. It is unlikely to be allergy, but could be herxheimer. Like what visual says, reduce your dose to one that has no side effects then build up slowly. Also, take it with food, not on empty stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gill Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 no it doesn't help much with hppd, in my experience, but it does help me feel more clear-headed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellamy09 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 what do you guys recommend i cant cut it in a lower dose cause i got the v-caps thinking 600 mg would be fine. any reccomendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 you could just open the cap up and dissolve it in some water. Drink half on breakfast, half on evening meal (keeping it in fridge during day or it will degrade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missjess Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hey...I'm interested to try NAC...I'm looking for something that will help with ocd and a crazy hppd mind ...I have to stop taking lamictal coz it seems to be making my visuals worse...but the upside is it rlly fuking puts a hault on all those fuked up thoughts and fast mind from having hppd. Has it made visuals worse for anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hppd33 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Efexor helps me for my ocd and dp-attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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