joe Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 This post has been promoted to an article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 aka flunarizine. Im also keepin an eye out for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 only one or two people have taken it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 i think maybe so, but this seems strange given the good outcomes reported. People with tame doctors should try this stuff and report back, try and build up some evidence for people with less tame docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovertigo Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I am supposed to take it but am afraid because of the parkinsonian like side effects (extra pyraminal syndrome). I think that's why it isn't prescribed very often (on top of the risk of depression and important gain weight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Yep, that's what my neuro told me (and he perscribes me anything I ask!).... Not much mention about it online though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovertigo Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 So he didn't want to prescribe it to you? My neurologist prescribed it to me. I did some research and it's about 1 / 100 000 people who get extrapyramidal, mostly seniors, happens more after a couple of months and it's reversible all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yea, it is the first time he has said no to a suggestion... and that includes benzos, barbituates and opiates.... plus a multitude of epilepsy and even anti psych drugs. I might push him on the subject, if more people see a benefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 So he didn't want to prescribe it to you? My neurologist prescribed it to me. I did some research and it's about 1 / 100 000 people who get extrapyramidal, mostly seniors, happens more after a couple of months and it's reversible all the time. Usually any Parkinsonism from meds goes away when you stop taking the med. Ironically Tardive dyskinesia (which is more common with meds than Parkinsonism) is not reversible. Yet doctors prescribe without a thought - "Oh well [ its your problem ]" Curiously, benzos help treat TD. There should be no real fear trying Sibelium. Just do the usual low dose to start with and increase slowly. If it is helpful, then concern self with longer term use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovertigo Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Usually any Parkinsonism from meds goes away when you stop taking the med. Ironically Tardive dyskinesia (which is more common with meds than Parkinsonism) is not reversible. Yet doctors prescribe without a thought - "Oh well [ its your problem ]" Curiously, benzos help treat TD. There should be no real fear trying Sibelium. Just do the usual low dose to start with and increase slowly. If it is helpful, then concern self with longer term use. Thanks for your post! I checked a medication side-effects governmental website in Canada where there are a few entries for sibelium and there is a girl in her thirties who got extrapyramidal syndrome which never went away and she only took it for 2 months. I know the irsk is low, but when you already have health problems, it feels like the end of the world to end up having extrapyramidal syndrome on top of it. So i am still afraid to take it. Pharmacists i called say they don't have an info on how many people get this type of side effect. If you have more info, i'd be happy to hear about it... because right now i feel i have to make a decision with not a lot of concrete info! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2muchmandy Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 What exactly is extrapyramidal syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 What exactly is extrapyramidal syndrome Basically they are side effects that affect movement. Don't really know why the have the special terminology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms Thanks for your post! I checked a medication side-effects governmental website in Canada where there are a few entries for sibelium and there is a girl in her thirties who got extrapyramidal syndrome which never went away and she only took it for 2 months. I know the irsk is low, but when you already have health problems, it feels like the end of the world to end up having extrapyramidal syndrome on top of it. So i am still afraid to take it. Pharmacists i called say they don't have an info on how many people get this type of side effect. If you have more info, i'd be happy to hear about it... because right now i feel i have to make a decision with not a lot of concrete info! Thanks! Guess all I can say is only take low doses. One of the biggest problems with meds is the standard dose is too much. With HPPD, we seem to be ultra sensitive ... lacking neurological balance. Trying something can swing you into another state (different symptoms). In one sense you could use meds to train the brain to adjust to different conditions - cycling doses and meds. But this is controversial and things can backfire. Effexor did me serious damage - low dose for 8 days. It is hard to say what to do ... I favor trying things and have largely benefited ... but not always. One benefit is medication response is actually diagnostic. Sorry that I can't answer better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovertigo Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Basically they are side effects that affect movement. Don't really know why the have the special terminology. http://en.wikipedia....yramidal_system http://en.wikipedia....amidal_symptoms Guess all I can say is only take low doses. One of the biggest problems with meds is the standard dose is too much. With HPPD, we seem to be ultra sensitive ... lacking neurological balance. Trying something can swing you into another state (different symptoms). In one sense you could use meds to train the brain to adjust to different conditions - cycling doses and meds. But this is controversial and things can backfire. Effexor did me serious damage - low dose for 8 days. It is hard to say what to do ... I favor trying things and have largely benefited ... but not always. One benefit is medication response is actually diagnostic. Sorry that I can't answer better than this. Thanks again. I have tried it for 3 days a couple of weeks ago and the morning after i took the first pill i could already feel the benefits (it was prescribed to me for migraines and vertigo). I should try it again. and my neurologist say he only wants me to take it for 3-4 months. Thanks again for your post Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 i could already feel the benefits Were the benefits migraine? Or HPPD? Or both? When you say 'migraine', do you mean classic (headache, zigzag, ...) or persistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovertigo Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 i could already feel the benefits Were the benefits migraine? Or HPPD? Or both? When you say 'migraine', do you mean classic (headache, zigzag, ...) or persistant? i have migraines with vertigo and visual problems (mostly palinopsia) which are pretty much there everyday to some extent, with peaks at some points. I mainly noticed i didn't have any vertigo, migraines or unbalance for a week after i started the medication. All my muscle were relaxed and i felt great! I woke up with more energy. I didn't pay attention to palinopsia though. If i take it again, i will let you know if it did anything on that aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 the ironic thing is all the anti-psych meds can cause tardive dyskinesia and extrapyramidal side effects.....not much fight there with the docs for most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 the ironic thing is all the anti-psych meds can cause tardive dyskinesia and extrapyramidal side effects.....not much fight there with the docs for most There definitely is a herd mentality with docs these days. Probably due to insurance companies, law suits, pharmaceutical ads, and fickle/whiney patients. With all this pressure going on, why try too hard... It is a vicious cycle caused by greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balance Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I have it prescribed but I do not want to take it at the moment as being off benzos after a year of hell I would rather stay away from chemicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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