VexedVortex

I'm wondering if anyone's met with someone in person to compare what they are seeing at the same time. Would we see the same patterns? My patterns are so solid I can interact with them, actually feel them--or so my subconscious is telling me I started paying more attention to the spots, which I've seen all my life, during a 10 day meditation. But during the quiet, I started to pick out set patterns. I can get up, walk around them and they appear the same from one side to the next. I'm talking bout the "vortexes," when the "phosphenes" spin in circles along a thin line. I can also change their spin axis by inserting my hands in at different angles and can often feel the spin on my hands. Or I may just be going crazy Either way, it would be good to know for sure if the patterns are universal at some level, because that would be the start of something altogether different! Thanks for your time! VV (BTW, I haven't used hallucinogens in decades. Just FYI )