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  1. To tell you the truth, it's not just for marijuana, but for everything that makes you anxious. I improved my symptoms after taking Risperidone, but even after treatment, I suffered too much with anxiety. All my life I was really anxious, but when I had HPPD I reached an extremely high anxiety spike where I even thought about the possibilities that I did not exist. I had dp / dr, I thought I was getting schizophrenic and things like that. To this day I WAS kind of neurotic. WAS ... in the past. I have a little social phobia, I'm too ashamed to do things in public, and besides I suck at most sports. But I began to realize that whenever I had to do some physical exercise that would make me tired, I felt completely at ease. Anxious thoughts, mainly related to the symptoms of HPPD disappear and the impression it gives is that the visual distortions also disappear. For perhaps much of what you see is the result of your paranoia, which makes you pay attention to things that may not even exist, but that you are fully convinced that it is, since your attention is totally turned to that. But when you are doing an activity that makes you move the body you are distracted 100%. A tired head and bodies after a pleasurable activity does not create disturbing or neurotic sensations or thoughts. So I strongly recommend that you practice some sport, or other physical activity. If you are afraid, or have any other discomfort with exercise you have to do away from home (just like me), start doing at home. I started to just run. I ran around the house (I live in a small apartment ... imagine), then I decided to learn to dance steps of reggae and house music and after I get very tired after doing this, I light a joint and travel. No bad thoughts, no paying attention, or noticing any reappearance of HPPD symptoms
  2. First, I am not here to encourage the use or purchase of any lawful or illicit drug. Be aware that each organism works in a way and the improvement or worsening of symptoms and their emotional state is relative, not to mention that the effect can also be strong, weak or simply you may not feel anything. I know that the great disappointment of many who live with HPPD is the fact that they have to stop using drugs indefinitely because they either make the symptoms worse or cause extreme anxiety, panic attacks or severe depressive episodes. But recently I discovered a way to get high, enjoy the trip that includes hallucinations, feel good and especially maintain lucidity. That is, you become fully aware. Recently I started a treatment for insomnia with zolpidem hermitartrate, a hypnotic class remedy, that is, medicine with the sole intention of leading to sleep. But by taking a pill (10mg) and resisting the first effects of drowsiness, I start to feel a sense of tranquility, pleasure and even feelings of nostalgia, all with mild sedation. Gradually some distorted visuals begin to appear, but not in the frightening form of HPPD. See things moving, see stars, kaleidoscopic lights and images, confuse objects with other things (see a chair and think it's a dog). The effect is very short, lasts about 20 minutes and as it passes you fall asleep and sleep peacefully. The next day no paranoia or worsening symptoms of HPPD, in fact with that feeling of good sedation that the medicine gave me, I started to stop worrying about the symptoms and go back to enjoy this kind of trip. Today I do not have any more anxiety and panic when I use marijuana and I have not used any hallucinogens yet (I don't want to). Anyway, if you are recovering stay away from drugs mainly alcohol and cigarettes. Do not use over-the-counter medicines as they can cause horrible side effects. Today I am cured of HPPD and my anxiety has drastically reduced, with you it will not be different. Stay in peace!
  3. In my case the disorder healed in two months with risperidone and paroxetine. Paroxetine acting upon anxiety and risperidone over visual distortions. Well you know the risk of self-medicating, do not do that, I had facial spasms with only 3 days of use of quetiapine (prescribed by shrink). Doctors actually know about the disorder, but since it is something very recent and vague hardly anyone is diagnosed with it, even because sequels of psychedelic drugs are not the only reason for the cause of false visual perceptions or other senses without loss of lucidity. So go to the psychiatrist anyway, because only then will you get these medications and then heal. Other than this, physical activities are great for diverting your focus from the problem, but the visual symptoms will only disappear with treatment using remedies. I also suggest meditation and some artistic activity such as writing, drawing, playing an instrument, etc. And also temporary abolition of coffee, alcohol and cigarette consumption.
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    what's up friend I also joined the raves scene a while ago, I do not know which style you like but my favorite is psytrance. It really sucks to have to cut the drugs, because few people understand such a pleasurable sensation of enjoying a rave under the effect of cannabis or acid. One positive point you have already commented on is that you do not mind the visuals when you are sober or when you are working (at least that is what I understood), which leads me to think that the drugs you are using make you focus on those visuals that you've noticed, that did not bother you but that now bother you, maybe something recently makes you anxious and is ruining your moments of leisure. This bad mental state reflects on your trips and false visual perceptions end up bothering you and spoiling you even more. Apparently your routine is full enough to keep you distracted from the HPPD and to be able to follow your normal life, but maybe this routine is a little repetitive, with few leisure activities and your only momentary leisure may be going out from the weekend to get high. My tip for you, throw yourself on the musical production. I started doing trap and lofi beats recently in fl studio, and now I'm going to trance, it's a lot of fun and satisfying. Think of it, so the next time you go to a festival it will be like attraction and not more public. Stay in peace
  5. I also have these spontaneous vocalizations in my head, they are kind of random phrases that my mind looses from nothing with no sense at all with any voice, sometimes my voice, sometimes from some relative, or some acquaintance, or simply a voice that my mind alone. Also I usually have flashes of dreams that last for milliseconds and then I can not remember how and what they were. Sometimes spontaneous memories come to me of dreams, thoughts or sensations from times long past. I often remember a random situation in my mind that I can not tell if it really happened or if it was just a dream, because while it seems to be very real, I am almost completely convinced that it never happened. These totally spontaneous mental images of figures with bizarre shapes that deform very quickly arise in my head whenever I lie down to sleep and the worst thing is that I do not even need to be sleepy for it, maybe it is because of the abrupt change of clarity to darkness when I go to sleep. Nowadays I'm cured of HPPD, at least my visual symptoms that used to be sensations of movement or flashing things in my peripheral vision, seeing faces of animals in things, some tracers appearing when I looked at some shiny surface, like a floor of marble or hail and also palinopsia. But what scared me the most were those weird spontaneous feelings I said earlier, that I remember having some of them before using any drugs in my life, and others began to get more frequent as I started to increase my use of marijuana . When I had HPPD they happened very often and made me very scared, making me think of various shit. They still happen frequently, but I have already adapted to them. It is noteworthy that I went back to smoking marijuana
  6. Hello Friend Do not freak out. I went through everything you're going through and I'm healed. I assure you that all the evils of this terrible disorder are healing and can be rapid. If it worked for me, it will work for you, too. Unfortunately most people taking clonazepam get a tolerance to its effects very quickly (including me), so this and other benzodiazepine medicines like xanax can cause addiction. Depersonalization / derealization is nothing more than all your attention directed to your anxiety. You can not get focus from the bad thoughts and sensations that plague you, so this focus would return exclusively to your inner world, making the outer world seem unreal, confusing, strange. Psychologists and psychiatrists say that this is a mechanism for defending the body through so much stress. Because the feeling is absurdly scary, you really can not distract your head. I do not know if you've ever tried any psychiatric treatment, but if you have not looked, I suggest you look. That's how I got cured. A treatment with risperidone for visual distortions and paroxetine for anxiety made all symptoms of my HPPD disappear within two months. Later the scary thoughts caused by the disorder also stopped scaring me. But remember, the effects of both remedies only begin to appear a few weeks after the first use, in addition the use needs to be regular, that is, to take every day at the same time. Do not try to self-medicate, as some medicines can cause horrible adverse reactions (I had facial spasms with 3 days of use of quetiapine). Any doubts, insecurity, or anything else you want to talk about can look me up and send me a message on instagram @victortahan. I am a stranger who has gone through the same thing as you so do not have to be ashamed. Stay in peace.
  7. In fact the big problem is that people report worsening or onset of symptoms after being stoned with some other drug, usually marijuana, this is usually a "trigger" common to people with HPPD, so you'd better stop using only temporarily until your anxiety lower and you notice improvement in symptoms. The great evil of coffee and cigarettes is that they tend to increase anxiety, causing you to focus your attention on visual distortions. Alcohol makes you vulnerable to taking other drugs, so I think it's best to avoid everything.
  8. Hello ! Your story is very similar to everyone here, including mine. When I had HPPD, I also got the symptoms very fast and only noticed them after smoking marijuana days after my trip with LSD. What matters is that as quickly as the symptoms came, they left. This is because I did psychiatric treatment, initially using paroxetine for anxiety, risperidone for visual distortions and clonazepam for anxious seizures. Risperidone is an antipsychotic and a major antagonist of LSD as well as quetiapine and chlorpromazine (I have taken all of these, but risperidone was the most effective). In a matter of two months the false hallucinogenic perceptions were gone. With you it would not be different, but for this you need to look for a psychiatrist and explain what happens to you, as he will know the right medication to apply. Please do not self-medicate, as these medicines can have horrible adverse reactions. I for example had facial spasms when I took quetiapine (this I only took for 3 days). I recommend that you do not look for it on the internet, because it is still very vague, unfortunately it is difficult to find information about it and almost all are scary, as it comes from a sensational and anti-drug media. Rest assured, what happens to you is nothing serious and has a cure. Avoid using drugs at this time, including marijuana, alcohol, cigarettes, and coffee. Stay in peace !
  9. You're handy guy, at least for writing you have a differentiated gift. You can very well put into words in a very lucid way what happens to your mind, using a very interesting metaphorical language. Many painters had texts similar to yours, so I think you might have a talent for art that if you suddenly worked on it, you would feel like someone special somehow. I, in my worst phase of anxiety and depression, began to write what I could conclude about myself. Initially in order not to forget what I concluded in order to show my psychologist and see what she would say. Later served as inspiration for some drawings that I started to do, that although I find them quite amateur, seeing the result of something that I produced, bring me a very good unique sensation, especially when someone praises them. You may need to analyze the process you use to deal with your psychological difficulties and see that there is an effort in yourself for your well-being and in it are your main qualities that you may not be paying attention to. And do not understand all this as a compliment but rather as a sincere criticism made by me. Sorry for grammar errors, I'm using google translate
  10. Sorry for the long text, but it's meant to help you (if my words were good, give me some feedback) I do not believe that a very small amount of mdma can cause hppd, because, as you said, there were no effects and even if they were, the mdma rarely changes your visual perception. All this stress is due to your concern with the return of hell from derealization and depersonalization. What happens to you is that you have a worry in your head that you make an effort not to think about it, for it is really frightening, so your focus turns all the way to it. So you try to get answers on the internet to satisfy your doubts and later to alleviate but believe me, that does not work. I say that because I did exactly the same thing. You look for information and sometimes they give you some relief, but you just remember the worry that anxious rulemaking happens again and you create new arguments, giving reason to worry to scare you again and you go back to the internet to do the same ritual. Believe me, everyone in this forum suffers from this same evil. If it serves as a relief I had HPPD for two months, but I did psychiatric treatment with risperidone and improved. Today I do not have any visual distortion anymore. My tip for you, look for distractions that take these worries out of your mind and also look for a psychiatrist and talk about your anxiety. Anti-depressant medicines helped me fight that kind of thinking that would not leave me alone.
  11. really, you seem to be an intelligent person with a complex critical analogy. It would do very well in the artistic medium with these words. Suddenly turn your attention to writing things, regardless of subject. It would be good for your head to focus on this kind of distraction, pulling your attention away from the frightening visual distortions that haunt us all. Have you written here what these visual distortions are like and what is your reaction to them? If you can write to us ... Your way of analyzing and comparing your feelings with metaphorical phrases is really very good
  12. What's up bro ! First of all, I wanted to say that for as long as you have suffered from it, the disorder has a cure. I suffered from it for 2 months, but it passed. For this I did psychiatric treatment, using risperidone, paroxetine and even xanax for seizures. Risperidone is an antipsychotic and one of the main antagonists of LSD and other psychedelic drugs such as ecstasy. But please do not self-medicate, the remedies have different effects for each person and can present terrible adverse reactions. From what you said, you have not told anyone about your condition yet, I suggest you tell your mother at least. As much as she may be angry, or there is a certain embarrassment about telling her (as I did) she will understand and help you find a treatment that I can assure is effective. But what you need to combat mainly is your anxiety, which is nothing more than the anticipation of fear, you internally ruin bad thoughts that you can not simply get the focus of them, because your attention is focused on an effort not to have them. So they reappear all the time. This is the result of an unoccupied and unmotivated head (just like mine and I am also your age). First, do not be quiet, tell your parents what happens to you. Second, do not be afraid to say your problem to the psychiatrist, because your case is one of the quietest for anyone who deals with every kind of disorder on a daily basis. Third, do not search about the problem on the internet, this will only generate you more distress. Do not give up, I've gone through everything you described and I've had a good improvement, you will too. I was curious about your experience with marijuana, if that's okay, tell us about it better. (I also lost a very close friend last year, so if you also want to talk about it, go ahead)
  13. Sup man ! Regarding your complaint of worsening symptoms, I must warn you that the HPPD problem is much more related to anxiety and stress than to the visual part itself, and anxiety has moments of ups and downs that will make you focus on your attention to the false perceptions and the thoughts that stun you, I do not believe that it was the remedy that caused this worsening. Are you using these drugs for psychiatric counseling? Do not self-medicate. Some remedies can cause bad side effects. Leaving this bad part aside, lamotrigine tends to make its visual symptoms improve, and it also fights intrusive thoughts and anxiety. I took a month of risperidone, which is the same class as lamotrigine and visual symptoms have all improved, I also took paroxetine, mirtazapine and currently take vortioxetine, all these anti-depressants, these will not do magic against your anxiety, but eliminate intrusive thoughts that keep you focused on visual distortions. But do not jump to conclusions yet, all these medications have cumulative effect, they will only start to act in your body within a few weeks, and the same improvement will appear within a month or two. During this time arrange for distractions that take you away from the problem, especially distractions involving physical exercises, try this for just one day for an hour, if you please do the same the next day, when you least notice it has passed a month. But I assure you, if it has improved for me, for you it will also improve, cut off the use of any drugs momentarily including alcohol and cigarettes (avoid coffee too) and trust the treatment, if you are doing it, if not, look for one, effective. Peace
  14. Your story is similar to mine. in fact if you are new here you will see that almost all are the same. I also went through everything you went through, from the bad trip to the visual symptoms that remained after the trip. So I can state clearly that what causes you this horrible anguish about the facts is not the false visual perceptions but the concerns they cause you. The cycle of anxiety is the same for everyone. You start by having a bad thought, and you mentally struggle not to have it, which causes your attention to return to it. The remedy for this is distraction. You, who are already familiar with sports, should return to practice, for physical activity releases serotonin and acts almost as an anti-depressant in the head, not to mention that the physical fatigue of a pleasurable activity generates mental satisfaction and bad intrusive thoughts disappear. As for the visual symptoms, they do. Mine improved, but for that I did psychiatric treatment with risperidone. I suggest you look for a treatment, too. In my dung country (Brazil), the health area sucks, so it was difficult to actually find treatment. But I imagine that where you live is not like that, so search for it, because the doctor will know what to do. Do not suffer silence, tell your girlfriend what is happening, she will understand. Stay in peace and cut down on current drug use, including alcohol and cigarette smoking, coffee also boosts in anxiety. I'm sorry for grammatical errors, I'm using google translate
  15. Dude, I can assure you this passes. I had this for 2 months, but I got better. I do not have it anymore. Consult a psychiatrist, he will know the right medication to end the visual symptoms, but the most important thing is to calm the psychological symptoms. When you look at things and see them psychedelized, it creates anxiety. Anxiety makes you focus all the time on bad thinking, which results in an inner struggle not to think about what is bad, making your focus totally back to the bad thinking you want to eliminate. There's an easy cure for this ... distraction. Distract yourself! Run, exercise, meditate, and cut marijuana use and any drugs at the time, including alcohol. Good luck brother, I guarantee this will all improve!
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