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  1. 2 points
    Hello everyone This is the first time I write on the forum, but I have been visiting you guys for about a year now. I have had Hppd for that same amount of time. I am not going to write anything about myself nor my symptoms, except it might be important to mention that i have meditated for more than half my life, in a very serious manner. I would like to share something, since i am deeply engaged in eradicating Hppd from my system or at least from the neuralpathways that my consciousness observes. Psychedelics have in many experiments shown to increase neuroplasticity. Always portrayed very positively and for good reason, we don't generally have much plasticity. But negative plasticity can also happen..This is a qoute from an article "Successive dosing and increasing levels of tolerance implies stress-based neuroplasticity. In the case of hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD), the subject retains some of the visual effects of hallucinogens long after the drug should have metabolized;5 persisting reactions to neural stress imply neuroplasticity. " This resonates so much with me. About 4 months into Hppd i started to meditate daily for 1 hour, later making it 2. In the beginning it was tougher than ever before...It was like my mind was stuck in a loop and couldn'tfind its way back to meditation. I have been doing intense retreats since the age of 11, so it should have been fairly easy. But this was more painful than ever. Anyhow i pressed on, no matter how much it hurt, because it hurt a lot when i meditated. My head hurt so much that 1 time i nearly passed out. When practicing zazen we sit with open eyes, and the visuals would become extremely intense to the point of full on tripping again. So I pressed on day after day, and month after month. I could feel how my mind was slowly but surely breaking free from the evil spiral of Hppd. After some months the visuals when meditating died down, and the pain in the head became more bearable. I believe it will take quite a while consciousness to never dig into the dark channels of hppd again, maybe about 5 years. But that is fine. I believe that Hppd can be reversed with neuroplasticity. I will practice things that improve my neuroplasticity consistently and forcefully. Drawing, writing, dancing, learning a new language, training/yoga, daily meditation/zazen, proper sleep, playing a new instrument and so on. Good luck to all of you!
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    HUGE post today. Last night I was reading an LSD study and the effects on the brain, going on about areas that are upreg/downreg or something. Anyways the down regulated areas he mentioned are desyncronized. I had to look up what that meant because I had no idea, but it started going on about brain frequencies etc. Basically the neurons in areas pulse with a feed back loop from other areas through resonance, the neurons fire in waves, as groups, its exactly what I was talking about really early on in my first thread. So I started conjecturing that maybe in a few minor users of hallucinogens their brain becomes permanently desynced so to speak, or the harmony between the two areas become discordant, exactly like I used to conjecture, only now there is physical evidence to the idea being possible. So, it comes back to the very first and original posts I made here when I joined 7-8 years ago, about using an antagonist, or maybe even an inverse agonist to "resync" the brain areas. It appears that the issues are predominately in the temporal lobes for people who have anxiety, and the occipital lobes for visual effects. I found a study involving Dr. Abraham where they did EEG studies on post drug users with and without anxiety, most of the users with anxiety showed irregularities in these areas, these are also areas in with patients with seizures can be effected. Dr. Abraham and the other doctor also mentioned how before seizures, patients will report high fear/anxiety. The condition of HPPD could very well be brother/sister relationship with epilepsy interestingly enough. Then I searched the HPPD forum for any posts involving 5HTP2A receptor antagonists or agonists. What found is shocking. Heres the posts from "Victor" Posted March 31 In my case the disorder healed in two months with risperidone and paroxetine. Paroxetine acting upon anxiety and risperidone over visual distortions. Well you know the risk of self-medicating, do not do that, I had facial spasms with only 3 days of use of quetiapine (prescribed by shrink). Doctors actually know about the disorder, but since it is something very recent and vague hardly anyone is diagnosed with it, even because sequels of psychedelic drugs are not the only reason for the cause of false visual perceptions or other senses without loss of lucidity. So go to the psychiatrist anyway, because only then will you get these medications and then heal. Other than this, physical activities are great for diverting your focus from the problem, but the visual symptoms will only disappear with treatment using remedies. I also suggest meditation and some artistic activity such as writing, drawing, playing an instrument, etc. And also temporary abolition of coffee, alcohol and cigarette consumption. Posted March 25 Hello ! Your story is very similar to everyone here, including mine. When I had HPPD, I also got the symptoms very fast and only noticed them after smoking marijuana days after my trip with LSD. What matters is that as quickly as the symptoms came, they left. This is because I did psychiatric treatment, initially using paroxetine for anxiety, risperidone for visual distortions and clonazepam for anxious seizures. Risperidone is an antipsychotic and a major antagonist of LSD as well as quetiapine and chlorpromazine (I have taken all of these, but risperidone was the most effective). In a matter of two months the false hallucinogenic perceptions were gone. With you it would not be different, but for this you need to look for a psychiatrist and explain what happens to you, as he will know the right medication to apply. Please do not self-medicate, as these medicines can have horrible adverse reactions. I for example had facial spasms when I took quetiapine (this I only took for 3 days). I recommend that you do not look for it on the internet, because it is still very vague, unfortunately it is difficult to find information about it and almost all are scary, as it comes from a sensational and anti-drug media. Rest assured, what happens to you is nothing serious and has a cure. Avoid using drugs at this time, including marijuana, alcohol, cigarettes, and coffee. Stay in peace ! If you read most of his posts he is very adamant that Risperidone cured his HPPD. I found another poster too... Posted October 26, 2013 I have HPPD consisting of marihuana-like derealization, LSD-like movements of surfaces, and optical noise. The LSD-like movements had gotten much better over the course of 7 years until they were barely noticeable, until I took Ritalin. Within two weeks, the LSD effects were almost as bad as in the beginning. The rest of my visual effects were not affected. I discontinued Ritalin. The LSD effects remained unchanged (other than going through their usual cyclical fluctuation over 5 days (IIRC) for the next few weeks. Then I started taking low-dose Risperidone (2mg, I think). For the first two days, nothing happened. On day 3, the LSD effects were basically turned off, back to barely noticeable. It was like flipping a switch. In the morning they were there, in the afternoon they were almost gone. I continued taking Risperidone for a few weeks, even increased the dosage, but nothing else happened. There was no effect on my other visuals. After discontinuing Risperidone, the LSD effects did not return, even when I started taking Ritalin again (strange, huh?). I've been taking Ritalin for a few years now. The HPPD symptoms are stable. Caffeine never affected my symptoms. I also found another poster saying he was cured by 200mg of Lamotrigine, which is an antiseizure medication, but it would be clear that this would only treat the symptoms since they are probably similar to epilepsy like disruptions in the brains resonations. Also, there are arguements that Risperidone, an inverse agonist of 5HTP2A exasperates symptoms of HPPD, which is also probably very true, as per the drug in itself without history of HPPD can cause palinopsia. I'm guessing the difference is just in the dose, as the one guy listed his dose which was very smart of him, and as far as I'm concerned is a pretty low dose, not the lowest, but pretty low, as the high does is 200mg. So the answer may very well be in inverse agonists, and maybe even antagonists as well. whichever being the case I'm not entirely sure. Interestingly enough this is probably the "reversal" that hope's research team may have in mind, whether they read my initial ideas/post in my first thread I have no idea, and if that is what they have in mind I'm not entirely sure. But this may very well be it. The cure for HPPD.
  3. 1 point
    I am feeling really really good when I am on keppra. I take 250mg when I wake up and it knocks out my DP completely. It also kills the brain fog. I noticed a 30% reduction in CEVs so far. When Keppra starts to wear off I notice an increase in DP. I Guess I have to take the second pill earlier. I am on 500mg and I will add 250mg every 2 weeks until I reach 2000mg or when I will start noticing side effects. So far I dont notice any side effects anymore unless feeling awesome is a side effect. I have hppd for only 3 months. I think with enough time, healthy lifestyle(keto) and the keppra treatment it can go away completely.
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    This is all really interesting because I distinctly remember my visual snow not appearing until about 2 weeks after getting HPPD, I didn't have the slightest clue what was going on at the time. In retrospect I just figured it had something to do with macro clean up in the nervous system of the damaged tissue, but it could have been increased growth of infection in the central nervous system. There is a member on here as well that spoke well of how he did hallucinogens and was fine but then a couple months later got really drunk and bam HPPD, which could be infection breach due to alcohols ability to disrupt the epithelial barrier. Really interesting stuff. WHen you go back for antibiotic treatment take note of your symptoms. Granted, some bacteria are not susceptible to all antibiotics, so this is a dilemma, and some are multi drug resistant strains, so its possible to see no effect at all. If anyone has had extensive antibiotic therapy and noticed a difference in symptoms during their treatment please post. Thank you!
  5. 1 point
    This has been mentioned before but it seems like as soon as it is mentioned there is a backlash from several people in the HPPD community, like it is totally absurd to even bring up a possible connection. If we really want to find a "cure" for HPPD, we really need to dig into everything, even if it is unprobable, to make sure we haven't missed something.
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    That's exactly what i do since 20 years. My brain is similar as a child one, I have an unquenchable thirst for new things to learn. I guess that's what made me "successful" in my lifestyle. Never tried real meditation , but i will try to .
  8. 1 point
    Awesome, congratulations! Keep updating!
  9. 1 point
    Yeah itโ€™s stupid...
  10. 1 point
    Reddit /hppd is a cesspit of people who's main focus is to continue drugs after hppd use. You'll get positive feedback about taking fucking LSD with hppd over there.
  11. 1 point
    Yes I'm not very smart. Let's say that I did many drugs before I knew what HPPD was. From worst to least effects : -Acid (no shit Sherlock) -Weed -Ketamine -MDMA -4-MMC (Mephedrone) -Alcohol -Nicotine -Cocaine Even though I am talking about "worse" effects, HPPD returned to baseline in a matter of a week (3 weeks for weed though). But I never was a huge consumer and always consumed within safe dosages, without mixing and with reasonable intervals between each sesh. And tested all my drugs, so I guess that helped. Drugs are bad m'kay ? ๐Ÿ˜‚
  12. 1 point
    I've never taken medications for this disorder. Well, not exactly true. In my 30s I drank a bit more than was healthy. Back when I started noticing symptoms it was the 1970s. There weren't a lot of options back then. Now, I manage just being clean. If you dosed just that one time, and you're staying clean, then your prospects are good.
  13. 1 point
    About a half a year ago, after a trip, I started having symptoms of HPPD. I had visual snow, and huge starbursts at night. I saw lots of BFEP, I had an intense amount of floaters in my vision, and I could hardly look at any light, or tv screen, or (god forbid) projected PowerPoint presentation without getting horrible afterimages. I had bad denationalization, and I constantly had the feeling that I was living in a dream world, and was having constant panic attacks. After two months most of the denationalization had faded away, but I still had the afterimages, and floaters, and other visual symptoms. After another month, I noticed that I could look at lights, and the afterimages would fade much more quickly. I also noticed that the floaters were only visible in bright light, they were previously visible in even a dimly lit room. Another month later and I could hardly see the floaters anymore. I barely got afterimages, and could drive in the dark without getting bothered. I could look at screens, and don't see swimming dots. I hardly see floaters anymore, unless I look at a white wall or blank sky. I didn't do much specifically to aid in my recovery. I tried out some supplements recommended on this board (lions mane, ginkgo, b vitamins, fish oil). I didn't notice any difference until months after I started taking them, and have since stopped, and not noticed any symptoms returning. I don't think they helped me with my recovery, but I can't be sure, because I was taking them at that time. During the entire time since I got HPPD I have not done any illicit substances at all. I have drunk alcohol however, and have had many weekend nights when I was drunk. This had a negative effect, at the beginning, but after I got over the denationalization, I didn't notice any increase in negative effects from drinking I think that it was mostly time that helped me get cured. It took about 4 months from the time my symptoms started till I could say I felt normal again. I count myself extremely lucky that things improved as quickly as they did I have been away from this website for a while. After the first three months I was able to handle my life without using this website. I would not have come back, except that I wanted to post about my good news. When I first started reading this site, I was scared, and reading positive results like this made me feel less terrified. For those of you who are like me a half year ago, it's been a few weeks and you're still seeing thing, just know that some people do recover.
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    I'm 4 and a half months in and haven't quite recovered yet but its definitely better than after the first month. It truly is a demon like no other. But I feel confident that maybe within a year or year and a half I will be back to normal. Hearing yalls stories gives me tons of hope!
  15. 1 point
    I've talked to my friends about it and found out three of my friends have gone through it. one has lasted for the past couple years and continues but it barely bothers him now. The other two of my friends are completely cured. Took one of my friends 6 or so months to get better and my other friend got better after two years. Both of these people still use drugs regularly and its never came back. I thought i'd share this to give some people a little hope, i know it did for me.
  16. 1 point
    I wish there was an example of 100% recovery. Not the usual, "im successful but I can still notice some symptoms." Although this is not an HPPD success story, I do have a brain success story. There was a time, after a heavy night of drinking, I developed mild vertigo. (Havent tried mdma/lsd at this point. only weed. anyways,) It took me about 6 month to recover from it. As one of the other post mentioned, our brain does count in months and years so try to not to worry about it on a daily basis.
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