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#1 Etrigor

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:33 PM

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 12:25 PM

Xanax is good, but doesn't last long, I think that is why people prefer klono... It generally lasts all day. Valium last a long time too, but doesn't seem quite as effective for hppd.

BTW - taking valium on your days off another benzo will not help stop addiction/tolerance.... a benzo is a benzo and your receptors will crave the effects of the benzo, not the type of benzo.

skipping a day is probably too short too.... if you want to use benzos occasionally... you should try and have at least a 2 day break, preferably 3.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:20 PM

I'm thinking of self administering Kpins for my social anxiety disorder and HPPD. What would be a good starting dosage? What frequency might be appropriate? I read some folks take it like 3 times a day; the last one being at bedtime. I was imagining taking it once in the morning and again in the afternoon. Would it be necessary to take it to go to sleep?

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 02:33 PM

I only take it late in evening, you will feel calm and relaxed for a few hours than it will just knock you out. 1mg or .5mg is better to start. Three times a day is excessive, I would take one dose once every 1-2 days as you build a tolerance very fast. It's good for anxiety though you should def get some. I honestly prefer Xanax as kpins are just to sedating for me.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:46 PM

Xanax is good, but doesn't last long, I think that is why people prefer klono... It generally lasts all day. Valium last a long time too, but doesn't seem quite as effective for hppd.

BTW - taking valium on your days off another benzo will not help stop addiction/tolerance.... a benzo is a benzo and your receptors will crave the effects of the benzo, not the type of benzo.

skipping a day is probably too short too.... if you want to use benzos occasionally... you should try and have at least a 2 day break, preferably 3.


how does valium compare to the other benzos for social anxiety?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:14 AM

I went to the doctor here in town to get some xanax. He basically refused to prescribe it to me because he is worried i will try to sell them for 5$ each..... fucking doctors.

Instead he gave me some clonozapem, which i thought was better than nothing. This med is a joke, the effects are mild even with 2-3 mgs and it just made me really drowsy. Xanax is officially the best benzo out there, great effects for anxiety and doesnt make you drag ass all day and fall asleep while your working (like i did today). I cant see why people are so crazy about the klonopin, its a mediocre drug, especially when compared to Xanax.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:11 AM

Each person responds to different meds.... It seems the majority respond well to klono, Xanax is better for you. Simple as that. I've tried both and both worked well, but the Xanax didn't last as long... So stuck with Klono.

Valium is good for social anxiety, I found a 10mg dose to keep me anxiety free for the day... Similar to 2mg of klono.

As I seem to say every day on here though.... think long and hard before you start taking benzos everyday. Are the better, less addicting ways to tackle your anxiety?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 12:23 AM

I was thinking of trying Buspar. Its not supposed to be addicting. But I'm sure some kind of medication is needed. I think I got it genetic my dad

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:02 AM

I'm going to start with Kpins and see how it goes....but only after trying Buspar and other non habit forming meds. thanks

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:39 AM

Why not just take klono when your anxiety is at its worst., rather than every day? It's a great method without addiction and withdrawal.

You will be amazed at the drop of anxiety JUST from having the knowledge you have a pill you can take, if things get too much.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:38 AM

Jay is right. Take it when you need it; not every single day, if you can. Eltrigor is right, i think Klonopin can be sedating and it is longer-lasting. Valium isn't used as much any more and it is one benzo that has been for a long time, like about 30-35 years. While i only have an RX for Klonopin, I felt that the best benzo for me was Ativan.

The starting/regular dose for Klonopin or Ativan would be like 1/4-1/2 mg. With Ativan, you could be a little more generous 3/4-1 mg. If you are "losing it" or having a panic attack or the visual disturbances are "crazy", you could take 1mg Ativan or,up to 2mg;; and about ~1mg for Klonopin.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:05 AM

''You will be amazed at the drop of anxiety JUST from having the knowledge you have a pill you can take, if things get too much.''

Jay that's to true, wish I could start over and use that knowldege ;)

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

I need something to control anxiety, today for eg. I bitched up my driving test cos of nerves. Would valium or xanax bel best? Something that wont risk pyschosis and worsen visuals

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:40 PM

hey mandy----xanax is a bad idea 'cause of addiction and seizure possibilities. Try Lorazepam (short acting) or Clonazepam (longer lasting).
in America, these drugs are: Ativan and Klonopin (respectively). There are probably like 10-20 different benzos (approx.), most of them outdated and have weird side effects.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:27 PM

valium or klonopin but of course they're all addicting as hell, bad advice telling you to drive on any drugs though :mellow:

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:45 PM

It is standard procedure for psychopharmacologist to usually only prescribe Xanax to people who have been on Xanax for a while and people who are addicted to Xanax. Valium, Klonopin and Ativan are less addictive, i believe, than Xanax. V/K/A-->They can be abused and probably are addictive to an extent. But according to 1998, having HPPD alone seems to be handicap enough to dissuade you from getting your license and driving. There are old people who can barely see who have licenses. I think taking 1/8 mg of Lorazepam, is fine to drive on.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:00 PM

Iv done most of my driving education with hppd and im doing fine, its very mild and it actually improves while driving. If i have bad days id choose not to drive anyway. Il try get some atavan or something

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:47 PM

''But according to 1998, having HPPD alone seems to be handicap enough to dissuade you from getting your license and driving"

I said "bad advice telling you to drive on any drugs though" I don't mention hppd alone making you handicap from driving lol.

Xanax, klonopin, valium and ativan are all addicting as hell. Most ppl on this board already know this, but just incase I don't want you unintentionally pushing ppl towards these benzo's like my old Dr. did!! After taking these meds for yrs and trying to stop, you'll realize what I mean.

Good day all ;)

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:07 PM

Yeah good point i probably wouldnt drive on that stuff, just for days i get para. I dont have an addicting personality and huge will power, plus my parents would keep the drugs

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:23 PM

1998 is right. Though, i think that if anxiety/panic are going to cause you undue trauma, benzos are not going to hurt. Nobody should feel pressured to partake in any drug-taking no matter what the drug, legal or illegal. But believe it or not, a lot of prescription drugs help. The discovery of penicillin certainly gave the average life expectancy a least 10 years. ....And if you have a headache, taking two asprin is not reprehensible. Nobody can force you to take anything you don't want, even doctors. So make a decision for yourself. I guess you could try some supplements but about that i don't know much.