Tinnitus as HPPD?

[Tinbird]

Hey guys, I´m 22 years old and from germany, so excuse me for my bad english.

 

Ok, I´m now starting from the beginning. 

3 months ago I had a wonderfull 100ug LSD experience and in the after glow accidentally Cannabinoid Overdose horrortrip with schizophrenic behavior patterns and very bad ringing in my ears, but I didnt be them aware ´cause I tripped so hard. 

After that I fortunately became relative normally, so I were able to live my life and smoke weed again without any disorders.

After 2 months I tried microdosing LSD first with 12,5ug and after 2 days with 25ug. No problems, but after 2 days I noticed a slight pixel morphing at the white wall. So everywhere I had this slightly morphing but it didn´t upset me. Okay, I had slight hppd but nothing special. I think it´s called Visual Snow.

After 1 week I noticed in the night a ringing in my ears and get aware that I got tinnitus. The next morning I forget the tinnitus and started the day in a good mood. But then this ringing appeared middle in the lecture and can´t contrencrate because of that. 

After that I noticed only this ringing when I observed it but after a few days it getted worse and heared the tinnitus constantly.

I read in the internet that LSD let some people get away from tinnitus, so I tried it.

I were in a good mood and took a blotter of 100ug LSD and chilled infront of my computer and played some games.

But at the peak the tinnitus grew extreme loudly and cant distract me from that noise. 

I became a little panic that I have to live my whole life with this loud ringing in my ears and defied myself because I took LSD again despite I have tinnitus and so damaged myself to the extreme.

The morphing became stronger but normalized after a week.

3 days the tinnitus was very loud and even music cant drown it out. In patches I get panically that I destroyed my life.

A few days later the ringing became less noisy but not even satisfying.

Now Im living my life normal like ever but the ringing in the ear is still there.

I visited the doctor and he said that I have no mechanic disorders in my ears and Im hearing even better than a normal person.

 

So guys, is it possible that tinnitus is a symptom from HPPD too?

I didnt notice derealization or depersonalization after that. 

I neither were mentionable stressed out before the tinnitus.

 

I hope you guys can understand my text.

[Tinbird]

Hey guys, I´m 22 years old and from germany, so excuse me for my bad english.

 

Ok, I´m now starting from the beginning. 

3 months ago I had a wonderfull 100ug LSD experience and in the after glow accidentally Cannabinoid Overdose horrortrip with schizophrenic behavior patterns and very bad ringing in my ears, but I didnt be them aware ´cause I tripped so hard. 

After that I fortunately became relative normally, so I were able to live my life and smoke weed again without any disorders.

After 2 months I tried microdosing LSD first with 12,5ug and after 2 days with 25ug. No problems, but after 2 days I noticed a slight pixel morphing at the white wall. So everywhere I had this slightly morphing but it didn´t upset me. Okay, I had slight hppd but nothing special. I think it´s called Visual Snow.

After 1 week I noticed in the night a ringing in my ears and get aware that I got tinnitus. The next morning I forget the tinnitus and started the day in a good mood. But then this ringing appeared middle in the lecture and can´t contrencrate because of that. 

After that I noticed only this ringing when I observed it but after a few days it getted worse and heared the tinnitus constantly.

I read in the internet that LSD let some people get away from tinnitus, so I tried it.

I were in a good mood and took a blotter of 100ug LSD and chilled infront of my computer and played some games.

But at the peak the tinnitus grew extreme loudly and cant distract me from that noise. 

I became a little panic that I have to live my whole life with this loud ringing in my ears and defied myself because I took LSD again despite I have tinnitus and so damaged myself to the extreme.

The morphing became stronger but normalized after a week.

3 days the tinnitus was very loud and even music cant drown it out. In patches I get panically that I destroyed my life.

A few days later the ringing became less noisy but not even satisfying.

Now Im living my life normal like ever but the ringing in the ear is still there.

I visited the doctor and he said that I have no mechanic disorders in my ears and Im hearing even better than a normal person.

 

So guys, is it possible that tinnitus is a symptom from HPPD too?

I didnt notice derealization or depersonalization after that. 

I neither were mentionable stressed out before the tinnitus.

I tripped before the 1. 100ug LSD trip only 3 ones with shrooms and all trips were very beautifull. 

 

I hope you guys can understand my text.

[Jay1]

Many people with HPPD get tinnitus. I have thankfully never really suffered from that, but it is a symptom

 

I think, as with the visuals... the tinnitus that hppd people get is often quite natural, but we cannot filter it out like we used to. As difficult as it might be, the best cure is to try and forget it... Occupy your mind with other things... I wonder if meditation would help too? Possibly even hypnotism?

 

It seems like your visuals, dp/dr and anxiety are quite low, so I think you have a great chance for recovery.

[TheGman6072]

Tinnitus is that weird buzzing, ringing and sometimes vibrating in the ear right ?

[Tinbird]

Thank you very much jay for your support.

Im trying to ignore that noise in my head and I think Im in a good way to cure myself. I coupled the ringing with something good - i stopped smoking cigarettes because of that and I dont have the desire to smoke again.

In the next time I dont lay my hands on weed, a little bit sad but I dont need it really. 

Can you tell me how hppd induced anxiety feels like? 

Sometimes I get a 1-2 seconds duration light adrenaline rush in my stomach, but It didnt affects me significant. It´s very rarely.

 

@gman

Yep, that the annoying buzzing, ringing and vibration sound in the ear/s and gets louder when you listen to it.

[trip into hell]

hey Tinbird...im german too...i had both panic disorder and hppd....my hppd is gone....the anxiety is still very rarely coming up but fading very slowly...

 

im not sure if tinitus is a symptom of hppd since it is not mentioned in the dsm 4....but what i do know is that it is a symptom of anxiety..i know what im talking about cause when i was at my worst of anxiety i heard these voices very frequently i still have slight panic disorder and from time to time when im stressed i still hear some strange voices in my ear even though its gotten very rarely... i guess yours is fading over time..just dont give up.

 

and this adrenaline rush you talk about is called a shockwave... it happens a lot to people with anxiety issues and all too often it leads to panic attacks depending on how strong the shockwaves are...dont obsess over this shit + take a break of all drugs, meditate and if you really feel anxious try a little valerian..it always helped me...good luck   

[Tinbird]

Yeah I get this adrenaline rush when Im focusing on my tinnitus and trip my mind of because it gets louder, but that doesnt make me worried bout it - I let it go.

I cancel all drugs till silvester because silvester is alcohol time. But Im trying to avoid all other drugs on silvester.

 

When I get used to the tinnitus and doesnt bother me and feel a improvement of the slight morphing, does that still mean that I never may have contact to psychedelics? 

Id love to trip on E and never overdosed it. 

Im holding strictly a pause of at least 3 months between the rolls. My last roll was 5 months ago.

[Jay1]

No one can answer that... You might be fine, you might be fucked for the rest of your life, 100x worse than it is now.

Taking MDMA after I got mild hppd was what sent me to hell

[trip into hell]

jay is absolutely right no one knows what will happen to you if you do strong drugs again...or overdo weak drugs...i always loved and still love psychedelics too and i wish to do them once again...but as long as i dont feel comfortable with this idea i wont put my hands on them...the only advice i can give you is listen to yourself if you are not sure or even fear something could happen then youre in a bad predisposition and almost guaranteed to fall back...dont do it until you feel completely safe about it otherwise its not worth the risk..

 

after my onset of these fucking disorders i thought i would never touch even a cigarette again...but here i am even smoking small amounts of weed...even though i never forced myself into it..its a calling...i hope that one day ill be able to take psychedelics again or at least smoke as much weed as i want...able to enjoy it like on my old days without panic or similar issues...nevertheless im glad that i can take a wide variety of weak drugs in microdoses already remembering its good for saving money..

 

take care of what youre doing..   

[Tinbird]

Thanks for this insight dudes. 

I think this hppd comes from the cannabinoid overdose 2 months ago and yet it´s outbreaking.

Is there a real chance to recovery? I never heard of a recover from VS or Tinnitus. And I brainfucked now because I read something of worsened hppd symptoms from nothing. :/

I live my life just before I noticed this symptoms. I can still connect, talk and laugh with (new) people. Today I´m going to a electro swing club for a long time, but this time with hearing protections

The psychological symptoms are non existens, I only get anxiety when I brainfuck sometimes myself. 

And the only fear is, that I maybe cant roll ever MDMA again. 

Somehow I think, that the hppd makes me more receptive for music, Im hearing it now more intensive and get more emotional on them. 

[trip into hell]

just give yourself time...and dont try to treat it with chemicals..i always experienced worsening or bad reactions of even many different antidepressants...there is no miracle cure out there...just take your time and try to stay positive..it is possible to recover but it wont happen over night..and the reason why you never heard of people who recovered completely might be that most of them dont feel the need to write about it..they must be so happy about it that they dont think about it anymore and go on with their lifes, not spending any time on the internet to tell the others about it..i guess they dont want to be remembered to something they've always wanted to forget like dp/dr for example...which i understand very well