Blunderbuss89 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 They've reached their goal and are now going for a stretch goal. No mention of HPPD but they seem very serious about transcending political/social research barriers and understanding the effects of LSD on the brain. https://walacea.com/campaigns/lsd/ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brake Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 They mention HPPD on the bottom and say they will take precautions. They also state that "the phenomenon has been widely exaggerated" -__- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 How does anybody take precautions against hppd? Shows you right there these guys don't know what they're doing but let's hope some good will come of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The guy running this, professor Nutt, was the drugs tsar for our previous government in the UK. He was sacked after he said mdma is safer than alcohol. He is quite a controversial figure here. In alot of ways, he is right... long term hppd is very, very rare in LSD users. Anyway, the research might show something we can work with, so let's see what happens. And I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but if one of those testers did get hppd, it would be blown up hugely in the UK media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghormeh Sabzi Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'm not sure it would be particularly beneficial to our group to donate to this. It would be better to donate to the 'visual snow syndrome' research. Prof David Nutt is hugely biased towards the use of drugs as well, not always taking into account the health risks. There are various arguments but he seems pretty partisan in his views. Unfortunately this often happens with people with particular agendas. He was on 'Cannabis Live' on Channel 4 (UK) the other day and was really poor in his analysis I thought, though the program as a whole didn't give a particularly in-depth analysis of the situation. I actually sent him a message about HPPD a few years ago, but surprise surprise, no reply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brake Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 And now this just came out http://www.the-scientist.com//?articles.view/articleNo/42393/title/Studies--Psychedelics-Not-Bad-for-Mental-Health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy13 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well, it's true that conditions like ours are extremely rare. But to bluntly claim psychedelics are harmless...well that's just not true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umit Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 There it nothing so bad like psydelics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 This condition is not rare, only grossly undereported. The case reports that David amassed are a testimony to my statement. Rare? The only thing rare about hppd are the number of medical practitioners and researchers who care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss89 Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 So I see. I'm from the U.S. so I don't know anything about this guy. Just thought it was an interesting link and I'm all for further researching the effects of LSD on the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolAr Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 They mention HPPD on the bottom and say they will take precautions. They also state that "the phenomenon has been widely exaggerated" -__- where abouts does it say this... ? I cant seem to see it .. I wonder why they would say that thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolAr Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Often tims the thing i really dont like about this world is... people act only out of "self intrest" mainly... why cannot people learn 2 be selfless and offer assistance where its really nEEDED.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brake Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 where abouts does it say this... ? I cant seem to see it .. I wonder why they would say that thanks It's towards the bottom on the page: Is it dangerous to give people LSD? What are the risks?It can be risky for people to take LSD, but the dangers associated with its use are reduced significantly if it is given in a research setting with appropriate care. The two main risks associated with LSD are flashback phenomena, otherwise known as ‘hallucinogen persisting perceptual disorder’ (HPPD), which refers to the apparent persistence of unusual perceptual effects (e.g. visual ‘trailing’) associated with the acute effects of psychedelics; and exacerbated mental health problems. With respect to flashbacks, studies have tended to show that persistent hallucinations are very rare in recreational users and the phenomenon has been widely exaggerated. In the present study, we minimised this risk further by recruiting only individuals with prior experience with psychedelics that have never experienced symptoms of persistent hallucinations. With regard to the exacerbation of mental health disorders, evidence tends to suggest that psychedelics are more prone to be associated with improvements in mental health outcomes than decrements. There are some very rare cases of psychotic reactions to LSD persisting beyond the drug’s acute effects, but the risk of this can be reduced by carefully screening volunteers, ensuring they have no personal or family history of psychosis, and including only individuals with prior experience with psychedelics who have not had psychotic reactions. Finally, the risk of dangerous behaviour under LSD is significantly offset if the drug is administered in a controlled research environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Here's their email: Need to be told that they're focus on research should be divided between our problem and their endeavors. I really don't get how they can kick this to the curb so callously. office@beckleyfoundation.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolAr Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 ok thanks.. i wish they would help :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 nobody is going to help. It's all up to us as a community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolAr Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 just makes me think this word is so screwed up.. we are always in search of more, how we can better our own situation. it should start from a diffrent premmise, "how can i serve / how can i be of service?"... No one cares, people are motivated by self intrest alone. I feel this all comes down to ignorange. Just my own perspective on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Well, surely it is our own self interest that expects doctors to look into our condition instead of something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolAr Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 yes thats true.. im just in a cranky mood over it and having a bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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