leelalala Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wonder if experiencing vivid closed eye visuals (like patterns, objects and stuff) while sober, can be a warning sign for the possiblity of developing further hppd? I'm not sure if they began before or after I started experimenting with drugs, but I had them way before what I consider the onset of my hppd, and probably before I've taken any psychedelics... They were more vivid when I smoked pot (and for some reason after sex), but they were always there when I closed my eyes and I kinda liked it. Strangely, I started experiencing a lot less of CEVs since the opened eye visuals of hppd began. And the CEVs vanished completely once I started taking Lamictal, and didn't come back after I stopped taking it, while the hppd symptoms did. Just curious... (and by vivid I mean, at the extreme I remember seeing things like chasing a dragonfly through an 8-bit jungle, while I had nothing to do with any kind of drugs or video games for months...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowplay Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Before Keppra I was tripping every night, experiencing astral tunnels, spectacular mathemathic spirals and geometrical patterns in different shapes and colours. It gave me an enjoyable feeling before going to sleep. I also saw my visual snow forming into different animals and insects flying around like you describe. This does rarely happen any more. I miss it a bit but less visuals is the way to go I guess. When I wake up in the mornings and if it's bright in the room and I shut my eyes quickly, I see a spider-web like flash that I really do despise. It reminds me that I'm still having this illness. I would say that CEV:s in a sober state, is a common symptom of HPPD. Are you still on Lamictal and what else did improve while you tried it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelalala Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Actually I was almost completely symptom free while I was on Lamictal 200mg. I've written about it in my introduction quite a while ago, if you'd like to check. I had most of the common symptoms before that (they were somewhat mild I guess), but the worst one for me was seeing trailing after images in red-green-blue when I watched anything on a video projector. I stopped taking it 5-6 months ago, and most of the symptoms came back but they are much more manageable now that I don't stress about them too much. (not having to deal with projectors at the moment helps too, I guess.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelalala Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Shadowplay, did you start seeing CEVs simultaneously with the other hppd symptoms? Or do you think that CEVs alone can indicate hppd? I used to think that they were a normal thing, and I remember being quite suprised when I found out that not everyone was seeing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowplay Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Oh really, so you had some great success with Lamictal, there are many reports on that. Maybe I'll try it some day. Wonder if I can combine it with Keppra. But why did you stop? Are the side-effects that negative? Does it affect your emotions and personality in some kind of way? Yes they came along with HPPD. I always had a wild imagination where I almost could project images if I wanted to previously but I think that's pretty common. CEV:s is definately a symptom, but I don't find them scary or disabiliting at all so I wouldn't say if you solely suffer from that you got HPPD. I think the criteria is to achieve atleast 3-4 severe symptoms that exists with HPPD for it to be legit according to the DSM-V. Thanks for sharing your introduction, I haven't read that before. I'm happy for you that Lamictal worked, did it remove the trails permanently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelalala Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I didn't experience much side effects with Lamictal, at least it was a lot more easier on me than all those ssri/snri - antipsychotic combinations I tried before that. The only thing I didn't like about it was that it lowered my alcohol treshold a lot, but I guess not drinking would have been a wiser choice and it also interacts with birth control pills, which probably wouldn't be a problem for you I was feeling good and I wanted to see how I'll do without medication I guess. I'll keep going this way for some more time, but might give it another try if I see that I can't manage bipolar disorder without it. Seems like it didn't remove anything permanently, but that time without hppd symptoms gave me quite a peace of mind that they didn't bother me the way they used to once I started seeing them again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunchy Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) I think so. But I also think it's normal like dreaming. I start to have closed eye visual before I'm fully asleep sometimes. Even as a kid. When I started smoking weed I'd see opened eye visual just like my closed eye ones but that went away as I got older and kept smoking. I got good hppd delta 8 thc now 20 years later. So yeah it may be a ln early sign to start clear. Also a lot of dxm and a handfull of dph trips when younger. Lsd, mushrooms. Huffed gas. And much more stupid crap. Pretty sure I had hppd before delta 8 it just wasn't very noticable. Edited February 22, 2022 by Crunchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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