SlavicPsychonaut Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Hey guys and gals,For my fellow HPPDers who benefit from Sinemet and other dopamine, norepinephrine and epinephrine precursors, there's an alternative supplement at your disposal! Velvet bean extract, trademarked as DopaBean is proven to be just as efficacious, if not more than Sinemet in ameliorating HPPD symptomatology; it possesses 15% L-DOPA and 5% catecholamines, ( I'm presuming norepinephrine and epinephrine). If anybody on this forum is currently taking this supplement, I'd love to hear your feedback on any positive effects its had on you. I started dosing a few weeks ago, and inherently have more energy throughout the day and it also stimulates my motivation, albeit it doesn't alleviate my DR. I just thought I'd divulge this awesome supplement I stumbled upon for anybody looking for a natural source of L-DOPA as neurologists can be apprehensive to prescribe a PD medication in this epoch. Have a great night, everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.50's Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 can this be purchased at gnc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicPsychonaut Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yeah! I purchased a bottle at my local Vitamin Shoppe, so I'd assume GNC would have it, too. I'd recommend the Solaray brand. http://www.gnc.com/Now-DOPA-Mucuna-Mood-Support-Standardized-Velvet-Bean-Extract/product.jsp?productId=3922305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.50's Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 fuck ive gotta try that im so depressed but i just spent the rest of my allowence on ashwagandha extract. does it reduce your visuals at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicPsychonaut Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't really notice my visual distortions anymore due to psychological acclimation and Klonopin, but I've taken Sinemet in the past, and it wasn't effectual; derealization is my most debilitating symptom at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Have you read this on the wiki page? In addition to levodopa, it contains minor amounts of serotonin (5-HT), 5-HTP, nicotine, N,N-DMT (DMT), bufotenine, and 5-MeO-DMT. As such, it could potentially have psychedelic effects, and it has purportedly been used in ayahuasca preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicPsychonaut Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Holy shit, I didn't know it had trace amounts of tryptamines! Personally, I haven't experienced any psychedelic effects from taking the recommended dose, but that could be antithetical to the L-DOPA it delivers for sufferers who have a higher sensitivity to supplements and meds and could exacerbate HPPD symptoms for sure; good call, Jay. I'd imagine you'd have to take an excessive dose to trip, but everybody's biochemistry is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 How much do you take?.... I tried about 2g and it made me feel a bit sick. Too much? Wiki said 30g is a medicinal dose!! I'd have been wretching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicPsychonaut Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 It's 60 mgs total; 50 mgs of L-DOPA and 16 mgs of the other catehcolamines. I just read that too, that seems excessive. The total amount of extract equates to 333mg in my preparation, and I take it twice a day; so a little over half a gram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StateOfRegret Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Velvet bean extract, trademarked as DopaBean is proven to be just as efficacious, if not more than Sinemet in ameliorating HPPD symptomatology; Outright claims of ''proof'' really need to be followed by some ''proof'' in cases like these. Saying that something is proven to be true is really quite different from saying that you suppose it might be true, or that it may turn out to be true for some people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicPsychonaut Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Outright claims of ''proof'' really need to be followed by some ''proof'' in cases like these. Saying that something is proven to be true is really quite different from saying that you suppose it might be true, or that it may turn out to be true for some people.I can't locate any medical literature bolstering its legitimacy as a Sinemet alternative, I'm quite enthusiastic and grandiose at times. Albeit, it is employed in Ayurvedic medicine, and has been since ancient periods to treat PD. All I can really provide is anecdotal accounts. Medical research has dictated that a 30g dose can be as effective as carbidopa/levodopa in treating symptoms of Parkinson's, and conversely it can be applied to HPPD sufferers. Again, this is speculation, but empirical evidence does exist. I was just offering a prospective alternative to Sinemet with a pinch of optimism. http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-1020-mucuna%20pruriens%20(cowhage.aspx?activeingredientid=1020&activeingredientname=mucuna%20pruriens%20(cowhage http://examine.com/supplements/Mucuna+pruriens/#summary_full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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