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  2. Whats is the symptom you (or symptoms) its harder for you to deal with (in my case: palinopsia, DP, Anxiety, uncertainty of where im gonna get, dizzines) ?
  3. und3rlif3

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    Its better if you quit stimulants for a while like caffeine or nocitine, i smoke a cig some afternoons and doent seems to afect it too much but, hey, everybody its diferent bro, and this disorder its really unpredictable, better if you stay clean for a reasonable time, your body will thank you! peace!
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  5. MadDoc

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    I'm not qualified to determine if you have hppd. Some of your symptoms do sound "hppd like", but they sound mild. I'm sure they don't seem mild to you, and I'm not trying to downplay your symptoms. The advice most people will give you is "stay clean". Trust me, hppd can be truly debilitating. If you stay clean and give it some time your symptoms will probably improve. If you keep using chemicals MDMA, you're tempting fate. Hang in there.
  6. MadDoc

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    Was your "bad trip" caused by psychedelics or weed? THC can cause extreme anxiety in some people. The weed that's available today is powerful! Anxiety can cause a whole host of issues. Don't assume that because you have serious anxiety, you will develop hppd. Stay clean, get some exercise, and find ways to deal with your anxiety. I'm not a doctor, or an expert on hppd. I've just lived with it for a very long time. That being said, I doubt hppd is in your future if you stay clean. Take care and hang in there.
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  8. LaersZ

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    Thanks man! That actually helped a lot.. One question though, what about stuff like coffee and cigarettes, do i have to quit those too? Because they are actual drugs.
  9. und3rlif3

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    Your are very young and you will be fine man, just dont overthink about it too much, it sounds to me like you are exacerbating your symptoms with the anxiety, tahts very common, i think you may have a mild case of HPPD so, stop drug use for a while, do excercise and drink watter, have healthy food and you will have a great chance that it fades away completely, just focus on other things, and dont think too much about the visuals, acept it is like reality is going to look like for a while, i know it feels strange and mmaybe creepy but it will pass away if you take a break from substances and stimulants, remember not to think thing like "im gonna be like this forever, ohh gosh" just keep cool and you will be fine bro, if you are lucky you will be able to smoke pot ocasionally again and youll recover to your normal life again, i hope for you the best, and i wish you recover completely that im sure you will, and if you accept an advice just stop the psychedelics, remeber if you pick up the message hang the phone! Hope !!!
  10. LaersZ

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    Hi everyone, I was doubting a lot about going on a forum about hppd, but I don't have a lot of people to talk about my symptoms because nobody really understands me. I am currently 19 years old, I first started experimenting with weed when I was about 14, I just occasionaly smoked weed back then though (like just a couple times a year). When I became 18 I started smoking weed more frequently. This was also the time that I started experimenting with MDMA at parties, since then I have used MDMA 4 times. About 3 months ago I started experiencing starbursts around lights in the dark, accompanied by halo's. I was freaking out about this and I immediately went online to find out what was happening to me. I then read about visual snow, since that moment I also have been experiencing visual snow. I eventually found information about hppd, and that it was frequently caused by drugs such as LSD and XTC, because I had used xtc prior to this I became really anxious about it. I first went to a physician, he didn't know what it could be (i also told him about my past drug use). So I was sent to an eye doctor...nothing wrong with my eyes. I now have an appointment with a neurologist. My symptoms are mild though, and it started 3 months after my last xtc trip. (I still smoke weed though). They include: mild visual snow, mild afterimages, rainbow-like haloes around lights (primarily in the dark), starbursts, mouches voulantes when I'm outside and the sun is shining (I didn't experience this before), when the sun shines on white objects it is really intense and it gives me afterimages. Do you guys think I have hppd? And will this ever go away? Please help..
  11. This is happening to me now and I’m scared the dots are her everyday morning might even when I close my eyes , also I think it was high potent weed I consumed and i still feel like I’m not in my body it’s been two weeks since the weed and two months since the first time I did last I just need a way to not see the dots!!! Please someone help. I literally had the same issue as you it’s like you described my story, have they gone away? Are they any better now? It’s 2020 this post was 2014 I know I’m late but please someone help
  12. LaersZ

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    That's hard to say, if you stay off drugs then I think you won't develop it though. It's gonna be alright :)
  13. I think it is very, very unlikely you will develop hppd at a later date after smoking weed, but taking steps to stay sober (inc. alcohol), minimise stress, ignoring symptons, getting good sleep, eating healthy foods and exercising will make sure the chance stays very low. Good luck, Jay
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  15. So just to be clear, you still have these symptoms now right? The fight or flight explanation doesn't really make sense to me. In my experience, greater sensitivity to light and deeper perception of colors is associated with my afterimages, and that's what it sounds like it is with you also. If you have no other visual issues, this might be the very first, most mild symptom of a visual condition. You and I are lucky in that we seem to have milder HPPD. You might go through some weeks of depression but most likely you'll eventually get used to it even if it lasts forever and you'll forget about it. However, do be hopeful that it will go away. For most people it seems like if they milder HPPD it does go away, but remember how you feel about drugs now, and note how sensitive you are to them to as to avoid worsening it in the future. Sorry but that's really all I can say.
  16. questiongirl

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    Hi, ill keep a long story short: smoked weed -> got bad anxiety from a horrible trip got dpdr symptoms etc sensitivity to light (but heard that's bc of my flight or fight being turned on 247 so pupils are dilated) anyways last time I smoked weed was august, ill never smoke again or do drugs again in my life. dont miss it dont care. Now, i see this HPPD and scared ill develop it since people are saying they got it much later like a couple weeks after drugs. im so scared. will i develop this.
  17. Hi, ill keep a long story short: smoked weed -> got bad anxiety from a horrible trip got dpdr symptoms etc sensitivity to light (but heard that's bc of my flight or fight being turned on 247 so pupils are dilated) anyways last time I smoked weed was august, ill never smoke again or do drugs again in my life. dont miss it dont care. Now, i see this HPPD and scared ill develop it since people are saying they got it much later like a couple weeks after drugs. im so scared. will i develop this.
  18. HPPD from weed is really uncommon but yes you can get it from weed sounds too me tho that your hppd is really mild lots of us have it much much worse. If I were you i’d stay sober and not take any risks of making it worse
  19. I'm gonna relay my own experience with trails and afterimages, and some things I've realized about it which I think could possibly be a lead to some treatment. Of course this is completely personal and probably won't apply exactly to other people, but it might have something valuable. So first of all, I developed palinopsia before I used any drugs. It was not very strong though. It didn't bother me too much. Then I started smoking weed and it became significantly worse. It happened particularly from two heavy smoking sessions, getting worse on each one. It became very depressing and difficult to manage. A few years after that, I tried Gabapentin, though I didn't take it therapeutically. As other people have reported is an effect of the drug, the palinopsia got worse. However, it returned to baseline after the drug left my system. Just recently I took a large amount of DXM in order to cope with an opiate withdrawal. The palinopsia got permanently worse again. Since then, I tried Gabapentin again, and once again the palinopsia got worse, but it returned to baseline after I stopped taking the drug. However, this time the trails I saw on Gabapentin were worse than the previous times I had taken it, before the DXM, so basically Gabapentin makes the trails worse in comparison to your baseline, whatever that is. If I never had any trails to begin with, it would probably result in an effect similar to what I see anyway. So I have a couple of things to takeaway about this: 1. Some drugs induce a long-term effect of worsening my afterimages, as if the brain, after experiencing the effect on some drug, comes to think of it as normal, and doesn't return back to my previous vision. However, some drugs don't do that, namely Gabapentin. There's something about certain drugs such as weed and DXM, which makes the brain retain the visual phenomenon and not go back to normal, while Gabapentin induces the trails differently, in a way that doesn't foo the brain in that way. 2. My brain seems to really think that this vision is normal, because even after taking another drug that would induce palinopsia, it makes the symptoms worse, rather than just leaving it at baseline. 3. If I could understand the mechanism by which drugs like weed and DXM affect my vision in a way that makes it not go away, vs. the way that Gabapentin affects the brain, I could determine a couple of things. One would be which drugs would be safe to take and which would be harmful, and two would be that I could possibly find a drug which affects the brain oppositely, reducing the afterimages. Also, if I could understand the mechanism by which the effect stays with persistence, I could possibly find a drug that has that same mechanism, but in reverse. 4. My palinopsia isn't just some sort of illusion which is induced by my own neurochemistry alone, it's the result of a very specific effect on the brain, which certain drugs apply in the exact right way to make the brain think that this new perception of vision is normal, and to make it the baseline. So hopefully that's interesting to someone. I don't know how I would go about pursuing any further research into this, but maybe it will help someone else. I'd be curious to know how much other peoples' experiences line up with this.
  20. I had a bit of success with Inositol and 5HTP, depression meds made me very ill, but these supplements, I could tolerate and my mood lifted. Build up slowly to whatever you opt for. Good luck
  21. Also were you prescribed abilify for a reason other than depression? That can take some time to recover from but you will. I personally have never been on it but a close friend was and he said the recovery time was a few months but things eventually got better. Make sure to consult your doctor and give time for the meds to work, also if you were on Abilify or anything for longer than a few weeks make sure to taper slowly.
  22. Hello, For me a standard dose 100mg of Zoloft helped in the beginning when dealing with HPPD. I like to think of them as a stepping stone to recovery. It's hard to say if it made symptoms worse but it definitely helped with anxiety which can exacerbate HPPD symptoms. It's tough though because most people don't want to be on it forever myself included but my situation required some type of external help and I am now doing really well. The catch is getting off antidepressants can be hard but that's a bridge I will cross later. Two years since I started the Zoloft and about the same amount of time since my last trip and my symptoms are wayyy wayyy better. Time is the thing that's going to heal you, and of course stopping drugs to include pot. I love weed but I had to choose and my sanity and mental clarity were more important to me. Over time things clear up incrementally and today I can say I am a happy person. Meditation has also helped. Let me know if you have any other questions. Take care.
  23. Like three weeks or so, anyway my case its not steady, somedays its like im on 100Ug of lsd some others is less noticeable, i had to quit pot too
  24. How long did it take to get back to Base line? Im off for 5 days and it didnt get better.
  25. Antidepresant use to make symptoms worse, i took Mirtazapine or Remeron and it made my symptoms sky rocket, i passed trough VS to double image and trails in vision, it helped me to disminish anxiety though, but made visuals worse, then i stoped the use, and my HPPD is starting to be on vase line again. its better if you look for natural remedys like lion mane, to say at first i didnt realize i was sufering HPPD and continue to smoke weed while using the antidepresant wich made everything worse. Try to meditate and be patient, its seems like only time and natural healing is the path with this living hell. Keep in mind that this is only a disorder, it wont let you blind or make you lose your mind completely, although is harsh the most of the time, let the disorder do wharever it wants with your vision and dont resist it, like Carl Jung said, what you resist it persists, i hope your HPPD gets to a bearable level and stays steady so you will be able to heal completely. my best wishes, keep up bro. 5 months with this unpleasant partner HPPD.
  26. I have completely lost hope. I have HPPD with Visual Snow DR / DP and severe depression. I tried citalopram. Has worsened my HPPD. I tried Abilify. Has worsened my HPPD. What can i take What are your experiences? And will it get better again or did the medication f*** me up?
  27. Well its hard to tell, it changes from one person to another, many people can stand drugs of any kind anymore (not even alcohol), some others keep smoking weed with ligth use, but definetly my advice for you its to satay sober for a while at least, let the hppd show its face for you, cause this disorder its so fucking unpredictable its better not to mess with it, i was at the same point at the beginnig afraid of not be able to smoke weed again cause i just loved it so much, but man we can live a completely happy life with out substances, at the end you will do what you want, but keep in mind HPPD its very unpredictable, what may have worked for somebody may not work for you and vice versa, stay safe and i hope your HPPD stays steady and you can recover completely. Hope
  28. Hey there so I think I might have some mild hppd. I have done lsd thrice last summer and had a bad trip once. After that I would have occasional 20 sec flashbacks of color enhancement etc but nothing else. Now three weeks ago I took mdma, and everything was fine after that. I was on a weed break and smoked a few days ago. Ever since I smoke everything is very cattoony, hd colors if you know what I mean, like elongated. Not sure if it's hppd or what. I stopped weed because after that bad trip my weed was often very anxiety inducing and very intense. Now I am hopeful that if I'm lucky and I recover in a few months while being sober. I don't want to do lsd or MD anymore not risking it, but can i still smoke weed, like will that go back to normal. Will these hppd neural pathways be faded out? Like erased. Thanks
  29. That's quite a lot of supplements. Did you start doing all this stuff really early on in your condition, or did you wait a few months? I only ask because I'm wondering if maybe just living a normal life, without going out of your way to ingest supplements and act abnormally in your lifestyle, could possibly be the best way to deal with the condition early on. Perhaps all those supplements are just making things worse, especially as you experience frustration in it not working. I know that's a stupid suggestion, but it's just what came to mind. I don't know how on earth to deal with this stuff.
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